Curious Goldfish Podcast Curious Goldfish is a podcast about independent music and the people who make it. The name comes from two Ted Lasso episodes. In one, Ted tells a struggling player that the happiest animal on earth is a goldfish, because it has a 10-second memory. The lesson: forget the mistake and move forward. In another, Ted quotes Walt Whitman before a dart match: "Be curious, not judgmental." Both stuck with me. I can't sing. I don't play an instrument. But I've spent years being genuinely curious about people who write something honest and then perform it for strangers. How they do it. Why they keep doing it. What it costs. The guests are Americana, folk, roots, rock, and country artists who aren't on the radio and probably won't be. Some have 500 monthly listeners. Some have 100,000. The common thread is that they chose the independent path and they're figuring it out in real time. We cover songwriting, the business of music, the touring life, and the moments that made an artist who they are. The conversations keep getting better. https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/ en ยฉ 2026 Jason English 019ef26a-ddd5-76f1-bfb9-ee587ed1fec9 no f4fccb80-8503-11f1-85bd-cd14433020d6 podcast https://media.beehiiv.com/cdn-cgi/image/fit=scale-down,format=auto,onerror=redirect,quality=80/uploads/asset/file/72d35006-1ed4-41c4-8562-a0d9ea16259e/podcast_artwork_20260623-245-vj8nn7.jpg?t=1782183552 Curious Goldfish Podcast https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/ true episodic Jason English Curious Goldfish is a podcast about independent music and the people who make it. The name comes from two Ted Lasso episodes. In one, Ted tells a struggling player that the happiest animal on earth is a goldfish, because it has a 10-second memory. The lesson: forget the mistake and move forward. In another, Ted quotes Walt Whitman before a dart match: "Be curious, not judgmental." Both stuck with me. I can't sing. I don't play an instrument. But I've spent years being genuinely curious about people who write something honest and then perform it for strangers. How they do it. Why they keep doing it. What it costs. The guests are Americana, folk, roots, rock, and country artists who aren't on the radio and probably won't be. Some have 500 monthly listeners. Some have 100,000. The common thread is that they chose the independent path and they're figuring it out in real time. We cover songwriting, the business of music, the touring life, and the moments that made an artist who they are. The conversations keep getting better.

]]> Jason English jason@curiousgoldfish.com Tue, 14 Jul 2026 12:26:00 +0000 Tue, 21 Jul 2026 13:02:21 +0000 beehiiv The Chorus Came in a Dream: A Chat with Dwight + Nicole https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/the_chorus_came_in_a_dream_a_chat_with_dwight_nicole They turned down the record deals their families begged them to sign. Twenty years later, still here. Get the stories behind the episodes -> https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Dwight Ritscher... Tue, 14 Jul 2026 12:26:00 +0000 3378 Jason English false full 139 They turned down the record deals their families begged them to sign. Twenty years later, still here.

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Dwight Ritscher and Nicole Nelson are a married duo from Burlington, Vermont, twenty years into an independent career they built by refusing to pick a lane. They came up in the blues and roots clubs of New York and New England, moved through jazz and country and punk, and brought their fans along for all of it. Their new album, Day or Night, produced by Joel Hamilton, started as roughly 163 songs and ended as twelve. The chorus of one of those twelve arrived in a dream Nicole had the night her grandmother died, and she tells that story here in full. We also get into how a married band keeps its fights off the stage, the real economics of steering what Nicole calls a very small boat, and why, after two decades, she still calls herself a beginner.

๐ŸŽต Dwight + Nicole's latest: Day or Night (2026)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS

0:00 Cold Open: "It's Impossible Not to Have a Spark"
1:00 Welcome to Curious Goldfish
2:55 Burlington, Vermont, and a New Album
4:41 Married, In a Band, and Still Speaking
6:22 "No Weird Business": Leaving the Fight Offstage
12:44 The Origin Story and the First Spark
15:45 The Small Boat: The Math of Twenty Years Independent
18:20 Social Media, Superfans, and Who Actually Shows Up
24:19 Turning Down the Record Contracts
26:10 The Eras: Blues, Jazz, Country, Punk, Roots
29:03 Working with Producer Joel Hamilton
30:54 163 Songs Down to Twelve
32:38 "Beautiful": The Chorus That Came in a Dream
37:22 "One Morning" and Watching the World Come Apart
42:05 Still a Beginner After Twenty Years
44:51 Grammys, SNL, and What Dwight Actually Wants
48:21 Nicole on The Voice
51:38 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Chris Trapper: Twelve Albums, No Backup Plan https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/chris_trapper_twelve_albums_no_backup_plan He wrote a song about loss. Months later, his brother died. The song already knew. Get the stories behind the episodes -> https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Chris Trapper grew up the sixth of... Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:00:00 +0000 2611 Jason English false full 138 He wrote a song about loss. Months later, his brother died. The song already knew.

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Chris Trapper grew up the sixth of six kids in Buffalo, got his identity from a fifth-grade school musical, and has spent thirty years making a career out of what his father told him to chase. At the 30A Songwriters Festival in January, host Jason English sits down with the Boston-based singer-songwriter for a conversation that covers mailbox money, sync licensing, a duet with Pat Benatar, and the album opener he wrote months before his brother died. Watching Sparks Fly By is his twelfth record, and "Campfire Symphony," its first track, is the one that made him understand he had been grieving before the loss arrived. The question the conversation leaves open: what does it take to keep going when the thing that saved you is the same thing everyone told you not to count on?

๐ŸŽต Chris Trapper's latest: Watching Sparks Fly By (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold Open
1:02 Welcome to Curious Goldfish
3:32 First Time at 30A Songwriters Festival
8:00 Watching Sparks Fly By and Sync Licensing
14:30 The Call From His Father
17:00 No Backup Plan
19:48 Touring With Pat Benatar
21:57 Stuttering and the Stage
25:12 Losing a Brother to Addiction
29:02 Writing "Keg on My Coffin"
31:00 Twelve Albums and What's Next
34:23 60 Seconds of Curiosity
36:00 Live Performance: "Toast to Us" / "Campfire Symphony"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Emerging from the Wilderness: A Chat with Barns Courtney https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/emerging_from_the_wilderness_a_chat_with_barns_courtney A billion streams behind him, and it's the fan dinners that keep the tour out of the red. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Barns Courtney expected his North America... Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:14:56 +0000 2384 Jason English true full 137 A billion streams behind him, and it's the fan dinners that keep the tour out of the red.

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Barns Courtney expected his North American acoustic run to be a respectable listening-room evening. Instead, 30 fans stormed a New York stage with kazoos and a guy did a striptease in a horse mask. With a billion streams behind him, Barns is candid about the math underneath it: ticket sales that break even on a good night, years of Instagram that never converted, and a recurring VIP dinner series with super fans that actually funds the tour. He gets into the dark years after losing his first record deal, the daily gratitude practice that pulled him out, and where he stands on AI by way of a David Bowie interview about the early internet, all ahead of his first live album. What does a working artist owe the platforms that mostly reach the fans least likely to buy a ticket?

๐ŸŽต Barns Courtney's latest: Live and Wired (2026)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold Open & Welcome
4:38 When the Acoustic Show Turns to Chaos
6:11 Backing Band vs. Just a Guitar
9:00 The Super Fan Economy and the Content Trap
11:55 Money, Aging, and Missing the Crew
15:00 The Dark Forest and a Daily Gratitude Practice
19:11 60 Seconds of Curiosity
21:00 Rare Air: A Billion Streams
23:36 Where He Stands on AI in Music
26:26 Twitch, Discord, and Real-Time Fans
29:53 The VIP Dinners That Fund the Tour
34:11 The Songwriting Process
36:52 Live and Wired and the Next Record

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Still Choosing Each Other: A Chat with Cicada Rhythm https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/still_choosing_each_other_a_chat_with_cicada_rhythm A freight-train hopper and a Juilliard cellist on staying married by letting each other change. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Dave and Andrea of Cicada Rhythm met when he ste... Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:15:00 +0000 1811 Jason English false full 136 A freight-train hopper and a Juilliard cellist on staying married by letting each other change.

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Dave and Andrea of Cicada Rhythm met when he stepped off a freight train in Athens, covered in soot. Fifteen years and a marriage later, they're still making music together, most recently on Magic State (2025), recorded in an old farmhouse in Madison, Georgia. They get into the mixtape that started it all, a proposal involving a metal detector, and why two people who came up from opposite worlds keep choosing the same hard things. What does it take to let the person you love keep changing?

๐ŸŽต Cicada Rhythm's latest: Magic State (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Changing Together
0:58 Podcast Intro
3:21 Meet Cicada Rhythm
4:25 Magic State Album
6:29 Genre-Free Sound
9:00 Train-Hop Love Story
13:14 The Mixtape Moment
15:35 Metal Detector Proposal
17:18 Music & Love Intertwined
17:57 Choosing Hard Together
20:02 60 Seconds of Curiosity
22:08 Ham Radio Rabbit Hole
26:14 Farm Shows & Community
27:16 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> 40 Years & Still Figuring It Out: A Chat With David Ryan Harris https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/40_years_still_figuring_it_out_a_chat_with_david_ryan_harris A guitarist's guitarist on chasing craft over fame, and writing a song a week to outrun his inner critic Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) David Ryan Harris is the kind of musici... Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:55:27 +0000 2378 Jason English true full 135 A guitarist's guitarist on chasing craft over fame, and writing a song a week to outrun his inner critic

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David Ryan Harris is the kind of musician other musicians revere, and at 30A he makes the case for craft over fame. He treats guitar and songwriting like puzzles, and writes weekly from prompts to keep his inner critic quiet and his angles fresh. He gets into "Still Be Loving You," written for his mom, and "Coldplay," and how sobriety and therapy deepened his communication. He debuts a new song, "Weekend Werewolves." What keeps a forty-year veteran chasing the next puzzle?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Writing Women Honestly
4:07 Why 30A Keeps Calling
4:39 Small Rooms Over Stadiums
5:51 Playing the Big House
7:29 Craft Over Fame
10:20 Song Prompts and Deadlines
15:35 Editing vs. Inspiration
19:45 The "Coldplay" Chorus
21:16 Songs About Women
26:11 A Song for Mom
26:45 Communication and Sobriety
28:59 Producing and Growth
32:36 60 Seconds of Curiosity
33:30 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Blue-Collar Cowboy: A Chat with Matthias Lamparter https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/blue-collar_cowboy_a_chat_with_matthias_lamparter A blue-collar cowboy who spent a decade and his own money to earn a debut called 15 Seconds of Fame Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Matthias Lamparter took ten self-funded year... Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:35:47 +0000 1958 Jason English false full 134 A blue-collar cowboy who spent a decade and his own money to earn a debut called 15 Seconds of Fame

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Matthias Lamparter took ten self-funded years to make his debut album, "15 Seconds of Fame," recorded with top players and Grammy-winning engineers. He talks about the failed early attempts, refusing to release work he didn't believe in, and funding it all through long cover sets and private gigs. He makes the case that fans get built on stage, not on social media, and gets into the single "Concrete Cowboy" and the past trouble that taught him discipline. What does a decade of paying your own way buy you?

๐ŸŽต Matthias Lamparter's latest: 15 Seconds of Fame

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Long-Set Reality Check
2:15 A Ten-Year Journey
3:40 Early Recording Attempts
6:32 Why "15 Seconds of Fame"
9:55 The "Why Not Me" Mindset
11:29 Superfans and a Live-First Strategy
17:24 The Bar and Fair Circuit
23:13 "Concrete Cowboy"
26:04 Getting Jammed Up and Rebuilding
28:35 Where He Is Now
30:39 60 Seconds of Curiosity
32:24 Closing

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> He's More Than a Clown in a Barrel: A Chat with Barrett Baber https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/he_s_more_than_a_clown_in_a_barrel_a_chat_with_barrett_baber A plane-crash survivor on loving something that hurts, and keeping AI out of his lyrics Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Barrett Baber built the album "Crittenden County" out of... Sun, 14 Jun 2026 23:46:25 +0000 4441 Jason English false full 133 A plane-crash survivor on loving something that hurts, and keeping AI out of his lyrics

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Barrett Baber built the album "Crittenden County" out of his upbringing near West Memphis, Arkansas, where Memphis soul and '90s rock both soaked in. He talks about "Clown in a Barrel" and loving something that keeps hurting you, often the music business itself, and why he keeps showing up against the math of streaming. He gets into co-writing as something close to holy, surviving a 1999 plane crash, and drawing a hard line against AI writing lyrics. What makes you keep loving the thing that keeps breaking your heart?

๐ŸŽต Barrett Baber's latest: Crittenden County

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Chasing the Dream
5:03 Crittenden County Roots
10:33 River Delta Inspiration
13:35 Grown-Up Album Themes
16:27 "Clown in a Barrel"
18:52 Showing Up Anyway
24:11 Indie Release Strategy
29:33 The Magic of the Writing Room
35:51 "West of Memphis"
49:23 American Idol vs. The Voice
53:35 Surviving a Plane Crash
59:53 AI vs. Human Art
1:09:37 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> On the Precipice: A Chat with Certainly So https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/on_the_precipice_a_chat_with_certainly_so Four friends from Mississippi State on the brink of going all-in on the band Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Certainly So, Colby, Tanner, Zach, and Chase, came together through... Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:26:18 +0000 2213 Jason English false full 132 Four friends from Mississippi State on the brink of going all-in on the band

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Certainly So, Colby, Tanner, Zach, and Chase, came together through Mississippi State and local jam sessions, and they are right on the edge of going full-time. They talk about the slow grind of independent music, the Southern and church-band roots in their sound, and prepping for a big slot at Bourbon & Beyond. Vulnerability, they have learned, makes their best songs. They close with "Alabama Blues" and "Foreign Ties." What does it take to finally jump from side jobs to all-in?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Chasing the Magic
1:52 Meet Certainly So
4:51 Bourbon & Beyond Prep
7:35 How the Band Formed
10:07 Southern Roots and Church Gigs
12:10 Songwriting and the Next Release
17:07 Going Full-Time
21:11 Dating on the Road
25:07 60 Seconds of Curiosity
29:22 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> Shelly Fairchild's Waited Long Enough https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/shelly_fairchild_s_waited_long_enough She lost a major label deal twenty years ago after being outed. She stayed in the queue Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Shelly Fairchild lost a major-label deal two decades ago... Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:20:24 +0000 3641 Jason English false full 131 She lost a major label deal twenty years ago after being outed. She stayed in the queue

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Shelly Fairchild lost a major-label deal two decades ago after being outed, and she has built an independent career on the mantras "stay in the queue" and "buy the tree." She talks about why her new album took ten years and a Kickstarter, and why she recorded it at FAME Studios in Muscle Shoals with Gary Nichols and Greg Beek. She gets into "End Up in Austin," "Missin' Mississippi," and "Struggle," plus a side life writing high-volume sync music for TV and film. What keeps you in line for a dream that already turned you away once?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Stay in the Queue
1:51 The Water-Filter Cold Open
3:34 Ten Years Between Albums
5:16 Why FAME and Muscle Shoals
10:26 The Magic of Muscle Shoals
12:45 Themes and Storytelling
17:22 "End Up in Austin"
20:00 "Struggle"
23:11 Musical Theater Origins
38:08 Making Money with Sync
44:44 AI and Demo Shortcuts
47:52 Losing the Deal
56:06 60 Seconds of Curiosity
59:49 Closing

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> 'Don't Chase the Chicken' - Jon Muq on Stress, Songwriting & His Incredible Journey https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/don_t_chase_the_chicken_-_jon_muq_on_stress_songwriting_his_incredible_journey A Ugandan singer who learned English from songs, played cruise ships, and landed in Austin by chance Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jon Muq grew up in Uganda learning English ... Wed, 10 Jun 2026 15:07:39 +0000 2281 Jason English false full 130 A Ugandan singer who learned English from songs, played cruise ships, and landed in Austin by chance

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Jon Muq grew up in Uganda learning English through singing, first to homeless kids, then as a cruise-ship performer with a 250-song repertoire. "We Are the World" first told him his voice could fit in a tune. He talks about landing in Austin almost by accident during SXSW, the culture shock, and his debut album "Flying Away," including writing "Butterflies." He is building an Afrobeats project called Shake It Africa. He closes with "Runaway." What does it take to make joyful music after a journey like that?

๐ŸŽต Jon Muq's latest: Flying Away

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 A Wild Austin First Date
3:10 30A Festival Vibes
5:15 Back to Uganda
7:02 Music as Language Training
8:04 Singing for Street Kids
9:25 The "We Are the World" Spark
11:48 Cruise Ship Bootcamp
13:23 Landing in Austin by Chance
17:26 Dating Culture Shock
20:24 Flying Away
21:45 "Butterflies"
30:34 Shake It Africa
32:07 60 Seconds of Curiosity
34:01 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Tattoo She Can't Remember Changed Her Life: A Chat with Caitlynne Curtis https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_tattoo_she_can_t_remember_changed_her_life_a_chat_with_caitlynne_curtis A Halloween blackout she can't remember became the bottom that turned her life around Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Caitlynne Curtis talks about her album "You Need Jesus," a... Tue, 09 Jun 2026 11:30:58 +0000 2046 Jason English false full 129 A Halloween blackout she can't remember became the bottom that turned her life around

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Caitlynne Curtis talks about her album "You Need Jesus," a mix of country and gospel, and stepping back from leaning on TikTok to promote it. She is open about how alcohol once helped her play the life of the party until a Halloween 2024 blackout became a rock-bottom moment that led to sobriety and church. She gets into "Devil You Made," "Amen," and "Life of the Party," her son Jonah's one-take freestyle on "Survivor," and what The X Factor taught her about showing up. What does it take to stop being the life of the party and start being yourself?

๐ŸŽต Caitlynne Curtis' latest: You Need Jesus

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Party Persona Trap
1:52 Meet Caitlynne Curtis
3:25 Album Release Check-In
4:57 Promotion and TikTok
7:51 Tour Plans and CDs
10:57 The Meaning of "You Need Jesus"
12:33 Halloween Rock Bottom
14:09 Sobriety and Fan Connection
16:29 Jonah on "Survivor"
20:41 X Factor Resilience
25:59 "Life of the Party"
30:34 60 Seconds of Curiosity
33:50 Closing

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]]> Seventy is the New Forty for Dan Navarro https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/seventy_is_the_new_forty_for_dan_navarro He almost refused to write "We Belong." At 72, his whole philosophy is just say yes Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Dan Navarro nearly turned down writing "We Belong" during a ... Tue, 09 Jun 2026 11:04:19 +0000 2053 Jason English false full 128 He almost refused to write "We Belong." At 72, his whole philosophy is just say yes

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Dan Navarro nearly turned down writing "We Belong" during a feud, then co-wrote the Pat Benatar hit in 90 minutes, and it still pays the bills decades later. At 30A, he talks about a "say yes" philosophy that built a 40-year career across songwriting and voice work in Coco, Encanto, and Family Guy. He gets into the album "Horizon Line," a Spanish-language record on the way, and the reality of streaming economics. He closes with a performance. What doors open when your default answer is yes?

๐ŸŽต Dan Navarro's latest: Horizon Line

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The "Say Yes" Turning Point
2:34 30A Festival Vibes
3:39 Touring After COVID
5:52 The "We Belong" Bar Story
6:57 From Feud to Hit Song
10:24 Royalties and Mailbox Money
12:40 Touring as Control
15:05 The Voiceover Breakthrough
18:18 Staying Positive in Your 70s
20:11 Horizon Line
23:42 A Spanish Album Next
27:44 60 Seconds of Curiosity
30:25 Live Performance

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]]> Authentic Sounds from the Shoals: A Chat with Craig Alvin https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/authentic_sounds_from_the_shoals_a_chat_with_craig_alvin The Grammy-winning engineer behind "Golden Hour" on vintage gear, fear in the studio, and AI Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Craig Alvin is the Grammy-winning engineer behind K... Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:37:16 +0000 3304 Jason English false full 127 The Grammy-winning engineer behind "Golden Hour" on vintage gear, fear in the studio, and AI

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Craig Alvin is the Grammy-winning engineer behind Kacey Musgraves' "Golden Hour," and from his Noble Steed Studios in the Shoals he makes the case for character over perfection. He talks about vintage gear, the move to digital mixing, the magic of Muscle Shoals, and why fear holds so many artists back in the studio. He is clear-eyed about AI and about embracing imperfection in a recording. What does an engineer hear that the rest of us miss?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Artistic Dysmorphia
2:46 Meeting Craig Alvin
5:01 AI in Music Production
8:45 Vintage Gear and Character
13:26 The Move to Digital Mixing
14:56 Building Noble Steed Studios
19:13 The Muscle Shoals Magic
21:24 The Grammy-Winning "Golden Hour"
24:06 Music Business and Monetization
35:58 Understanding Studio Fear
42:18 Embracing Imperfection
50:20 Philosophy and Musical Insight
54:02 Closing

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]]> The Other Carliles: A Chat with Caroline & JayJ of The Carlile Family Band https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/the_other_carliles_a_chat_with_caroline_jayj_of_the_carlile_family_band Teen siblings who played Red Rocks with Gregory Alan Isakov, thanks to Aunt Brandi Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Caroline and JayJ Carlile are teenage siblings making music t... Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:24:29 +0000 2432 Jason English false full 126 Teen siblings who played Red Rocks with Gregory Alan Isakov, thanks to Aunt Brandi

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Caroline and JayJ Carlile are teenage siblings making music together, and at AmericanaFest they played their first official showcase. They talk about touring as siblings, staying grounded, and JayJ getting pulled onstage at Red Rocks with Gregory Alan Isakov in front of 10,000 people, courtesy of their aunt Brandi Carlile. Their self-titled EP is a time capsule of songs written at 12 and 13. They close with "Tyra's On Your Side." What is it like to grow up inside a family band with the bar set that high?

๐ŸŽต The Carlile Family Band's latest: The Carlile Family Band

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 An Early-Songs Time Capsule
0:06 Meet the Carlile Siblings
2:50 AmericanaFest Firsts
5:41 Family and Business Balance
9:16 What They Admire Most
11:26 The Gregory Alan Isakov Story
13:49 Playing Red Rocks
15:36 Aunt Brandi and Big Moments
20:20 Why the EP Now
22:14 "Dream Again"
23:03 "Leftover Sentences"
32:31 60 Seconds of Curiosity
34:02 Live Performance

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]]> Existential Indie Folk: A Chat with Abigayle Oakley https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/existential_indie_folk_a_chat_with_abigayle_oakley She calls her sound "existential indie folk," and her own worst gaslighter her muse Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Recorded at 30A before her run on The Voice, Abigayle Oakley... Mon, 30 Mar 2026 18:16:09 +0000 1914 Jason English false full 125 She calls her sound "existential indie folk," and her own worst gaslighter her muse

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Recorded at 30A before her run on The Voice, Abigayle Oakley talks about building a life in music while still figuring out who she is. She calls her sound "existential indie folk," writes about the gap between ambition and presence, and wrote 100 songs in a year to stop being precious about it. Julia Cameron, co-writing, and a love song about a thrifted Patagonia fleece all come up. She closes with "Hazel Eyed Lover in Patagonia" and "Press Three." What do you write about when you don't have the answers yet?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold Open
1:11 Guest Introduction
4:58 Touring and Venues
7:00 New Music and EP
7:35 100 Songs a Year
8:41 Existential Indie Folk
9:37 Her Own Worst Gaslighter
11:36 Social Media and Anxiety
14:03 Co-Writing and Process
16:04 The Artist's Way
20:16 The "Hazel Eyed Lover in Patagonia" Story
21:53 60 Seconds of Curiosity
24:44 Live Performance

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]]> He Sings Songs to Buy Cows: A Chat with Tyler Halverson https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/he_sings_songs_to_buy_cows_a_chat_with_tyler_halverson Tyler Halverson wants enough cows to tell the world to get lost. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Tyler Halverson called in from his kitchen table in Nashville, gui... Thu, 26 Mar 2026 12:47:10 +0000 1300 Jason English false full 124 Tyler Halverson wants enough cows to tell the world to get lost.

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Tyler Halverson called in from his kitchen table in Nashville, guitar within reach, a few days before his debut album In Defense of Drinking came out. He talks about the long-term dream that drives him: singing enough songs to buy enough cows to tell the world to get lost, even while the touring life that pays for it keeps him from ever standing still. He walks through the western wordplay behind songs like "More Hearts Than Horses" and "Fort Worth," and traces the split between the skate-punk kid in town and the George Strait kid on the farm that shaped his sound. What happens when the thing you're running toward requires you to never stop running?

๐ŸŽต Tyler Halverson's latest: In Defense of Drinking (2026)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction: A New Album and Life on the Road
1:00 The Debut Album and Starting Out at 22
2:00 4-H, FFA, and Growing Up in South Dakota
3:00 Belmont University and the Move to Nashville
4:00 Enough Cows to Tell the World to Get Lost
6:00 Making In Defense of Drinking
7:00 Balancing Chaos on the Road and at Home
8:00 Where He Stands as an Artist
9:00 "More Hearts Than Horses"
10:00 "Like the Rodeo" and a Texas Trailer
12:00 "Fort Worth" and a Little Bit of Bullshit
14:00 Skateboarding, Cattle, and Growing Up a Misfit
15:00 Faith, the First Pew, and the Church Van
19:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> Country Music Hall of Famer Never Won a Single Contest: A Chat with Jimmy Fortune https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/country_music_hall_of_famer_never_won_a_single_contest_a_chat_with_jimmy_fortune A Country Music Hall of Famer who never won a single contest, on starting over more than once Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jimmy Fortune played Holiday Inn lounges before jo... Tue, 17 Mar 2026 02:52:29 +0000 3581 Jason English false full 123 A Country Music Hall of Famer who never won a single contest, on starting over more than once

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Jimmy Fortune played Holiday Inn lounges before joining the Statler Brothers in 1982, then had to start over again when the group retired in 2002. He talks about the nerves and humility of a solo career, the advice that kept him from quitting, and his "American Dreamer" project, a book, CD, and no-overdub live DVD about faith, forgiveness, and loss. He closes with "Earl's Song, Virginia Dreams." What keeps a Hall of Famer chasing the dream after he has already lived it?

๐ŸŽต Jimmy Fortune's latest: American Dreamer

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Holiday Inn Dream Advice
3:42 Meeting Jimmy Fortune
4:46 The Statler Brothers Breakthrough
5:22 Retirement and Starting Over
8:30 Three Career Eras
12:12 Going Solo
17:48 Never Quit Your Dream
21:20 The American Dreamer Project
27:38 Virginia Roots and Songs
42:50 Forgiveness and Grace
49:03 60 Seconds of Curiosity
55:12 Live Performance

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]]> She's the Fresh New Face of Folk Music: A Chat with Stella Prince https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/she_s_the_fresh_new_face_of_folk_music_a_chat_with_stella_prince The face of Gen Z folk on Joni, Woodstock, and being a 12-year-old big-band radio DJ Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Stella Prince, hailed as the face of Gen Z folk, grew up in... Tue, 03 Mar 2026 15:08:28 +0000 1734 Jason English false full 122 The face of Gen Z folk on Joni, Woodstock, and being a 12-year-old big-band radio DJ

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Stella Prince, hailed as the face of Gen Z folk, grew up in Woodstock singing alongside artists like Pete Seeger and DJ'd a big-band radio show at twelve. She talks about making folk mainstream again, building an all-women team, and recording her debut EP in Laurel Canyon. She gets into her first sync, a Hallmark film, and writing through Gen Z anxiety and newfound independence. She closes with "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right" and her original "Good Luck Is Hard to Find." Can a 21-year-old really pull folk back into the mainstream?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Folk Across Generations
2:42 AmericanaFest Milestone
4:38 Why Folk Feels Real Now
6:13 Gen Z Jazz Inspiration
8:21 Woodstock Roots
9:27 Radio DJ and Big Band Years
11:00 DIY Hustle to a Team
13:04 An All-Women Team
14:42 Laurel Canyon Recording
16:26 EP Plans and the Hallmark Sync
18:35 Gen Z Pressure and Anxiety
20:55 60 Seconds of Curiosity
23:14 Live Performance

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]]> She Soars in Song & Film: A Chat with Bird https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/she_soars_in_song_film_a_chat_with_bird A London-raised, Italy-based cellist who became an accidental filmmaker on the way to Americana. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Janie, who performs as Bird, grew ... Thu, 26 Feb 2026 02:32:54 +0000 1859 Jason English false full 121 A London-raised, Italy-based cellist who became an accidental filmmaker on the way to Americana.

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Janie, who performs as Bird, grew up half-Irish and half-English in London, lives in Italy, and is working her way into the U.S. on an O-1 visa. She talks about Irish storytelling, classical cello from age six, and influences from Jacqueline du Prรฉ to Led Zeppelin, plus the "accidental filmmaker" turn that produced two short films. She gets into two EPs, "Heads or Tales" and "Strange as Folk," and plays "The Tides" solo on cello. What happens when a stalled album turns you into a filmmaker?

๐ŸŽต Bird's EPs: Heads or Tales / Strange as Folk

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Irish Storytelling Roots
2:56 Meeting at AmericanaFest
4:44 Why the Name Bird
7:22 Accidental Filmmaker
9:12 The Elvis and Roy Orbison Mystery
11:15 Festival Strategy
14:13 Classical Beginnings
15:13 Drums and Rock Influences
17:52 The "Heads or Tales" EP
19:17 Folk Horror Inspiration
25:19 60 Seconds of Curiosity
27:58 Live Performance: "The Tides"

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]]> Financial Planner by Day, Songwriter by Calling: A Chat with Stephanie Sammons https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/financial_planner_by_day_songwriter_by_calling_a_chat_with_stephanie_sammons A Dallas financial planner who finally let herself claim the word songwriter Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Stephanie Sammons spends her days as a financial planner in Dallas ... Mon, 23 Feb 2026 13:55:34 +0000 2367 Jason English false full 120 A Dallas financial planner who finally let herself claim the word songwriter

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Stephanie Sammons spends her days as a financial planner in Dallas and decided to go pro as a songwriter without quitting, pushed by a refusal to live with regret and a nudge from Mary Gauthier. She talks about her Southern Baptist upbringing, the decade her family pulled away after she came out, and the slow road back to mutual respect. She gets into "Faithless" and "Innocence Lost," off her album "Time and Evolution," and closes with "Innocence Lost." What does it take to claim the title you have been afraid to say out loud?

๐ŸŽต Stephanie Sammons' latest: Time and Evolution

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Music, Faith, and Hope
1:01 Meet Stephanie Sammons
4:07 Holistic Financial Planning
6:53 Long-Term Optimism
8:05 Going Pro Without Quitting
12:06 Regret, Calling, and the Leap
14:10 Faith Deconstruction in Americana
16:52 Southern Baptist Roots and Sexuality
18:59 Rebuilding the Relationship
23:31 The Story of "Innocence Lost"
28:53 "Faithless" and Living with Nuance
32:02 60 Seconds of Curiosity
34:39 Live Performance: "Innocence Lost"

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]]> Authenticity in the Age of AI: A Chat with Morgan Myles https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/authenticity_in_the_age_of_ai_a_chat_with_morgan_myles She called off her wedding and turned the veil into an album cover Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Morgan Myles built her album "Laced" out of the wreckage of a called-off wedd... Thu, 19 Feb 2026 00:40:44 +0000 3209 Jason English false full 119 She called off her wedding and turned the veil into an album cover

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Morgan Myles built her album "Laced" out of the wreckage of a called-off wedding, right down to the 20-foot veil she carried to Joshua Tree for the cover. She talks about writing 80 songs in five months, narrowing to 12 with producer Ross Hogarth, and staying authentic as AI floods the music she loves. Gary Nichols turns up as a co-writer, and she gets into "Love Is Lonesome" and "American Sky." What do you make from the thing that fell apart?

๐ŸŽต Morgan Myles' latest: Laced (2026)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 From "Language of Flowers" to "Laced"
2:24 Survival and Authenticity in the AI Era
5:28 Comparing Laced to Therapy
10:32 80 Songs in 5 Months
11:55 The Symbolism of Lace
13:33 Performing Through Pain
16:59 How Fans Help in the Streaming Era
21:06 AI in Music
28:56 Why Words Matter
34:09 Writing with Gary Nichols
37:24 "Love Is Lonesome"
39:54 "American Sky"
49:55 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> He's Living His Glory Days: A Chat with Pete Muller https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/he_s_living_his_glory_days_a_chat_with_pete_muller A quant-finance mind and songwriter on living in the present, not the glory days Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Pete Muller has built a life across quantitative finance, cross... Sun, 08 Feb 2026 15:58:52 +0000 2491 Jason English false full 118 A quant-finance mind and songwriter on living in the present, not the glory days

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Pete Muller has built a life across quantitative finance, crossword puzzles, philanthropy, and music, and he is wary of nostalgia in all of it. He talks about the album "One Last Dance," the discipline poker and finance taught him, and the present-tense pull of yoga, surfing, and writing. He is also working to revive the iconic Power Station studio and prop up independent venues. How do you keep getting excited about what is next instead of what was?

๐ŸŽต Pete Muller's latest: One Last Dance

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Importance of Present Excitement
1:46 Meet Pete Muller
5:10 Quantitative Finance
9:06 Crosswords and Finance
13:34 Poker and Emotional Control
15:25 Yoga, Surfing, and Music
21:21 Redefining Success
24:47 Authenticity in Music
30:47 Recording at Peter Gabriel's Studio
34:48 Reviving the Power Station
38:46 Supporting Independent Venues
41:15 Closing

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Lydia Luce: "Mammoth" Year for Classically-Trained Musician https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_lydia_luce_mammoth_year_for_classically-trained_musician A conservatory-trained cellist who traded classical rigor for indie folk Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Lydia Luce trained classically in a conservatory before letting indie f... Wed, 28 Jan 2026 17:05:59 +0000 2125 Jason English false full 102 A conservatory-trained cellist who traded classical rigor for indie folk

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Lydia Luce trained classically in a conservatory before letting indie folk loosen her up. She talks about the album "Mammoth," the stories behind the songs, and navigating chronic pain and a pregnancy alongside a touring life. There is a Jesus-camp reckoning and some hard-won making of amends, and she closes with a performance. What changes when you stop performing rigor and start enjoying the work?

๐ŸŽต Lydia Luce's latest: Mammoth

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Musical Journey
1:52 AmericanaFest and New Beginnings
3:26 Balancing Music and Motherhood
4:40 The Joy of Indie Folk
7:04 Songwriting Process
15:28 The New Album, Mammoth
18:58 Chronic Pain and Life
20:35 Pregnancy and Pain Management
22:56 Reflecting on Jesus Camp
27:00 Making Amends
30:06 60 Seconds of Curiosity
32:20 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with The Thing With Feathers: Nashville Band Figuring It Out https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_the_thing_with_feathers_nashville_band_figuring_it_out A Nashville duo figuring it out, who almost threw away their best song before it became the title track. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Alex and Dave of The Thing... Sat, 24 Jan 2026 04:28:35 +0000 2032 Jason English true full 117 A Nashville duo figuring it out, who almost threw away their best song before it became the title track.

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Alex and Dave of The Thing With Feathers met at Belmont and built a band on melody and a refusal to take themselves too seriously. On a back patio in Nashville, they talk about the scene, the grind, and the album "So Electric," including the title track they nearly cut. There are ice-cream debates too. What does "making it" even mean while you're still figuring the band out?

๐ŸŽต The Thing With Feathers' latest: So Electric

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Emotional Journey of Songwriting
1:40 Meet Alex and Dave
1:55 Life in Nashville and Belmont
4:08 The Nashville Music Scene
10:25 Forming the Band
13:37 The Serious Side of the Music
16:59 Melody-Driven Music
18:06 The New Album, So Electric
20:08 Reflecting on Success
26:20 60 Seconds of Curiosity
29:21 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Jason Hollis: Music Maker Now Making Other Dreams' Come True https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_jason_hollis_music_maker_now_making_other_dreams_come_true A 30-year industry vet on why the future belongs to artists who own their work Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jason Hollis has spent thirty years in the music business, and no... Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:20:54 +0000 3130 Jason English false full 116 A 30-year industry vet on why the future belongs to artists who own their work

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Jason Hollis has spent thirty years in the music business, and now he is helping other artists avoid the mistakes he watched up close. He talks about owning your content, the thousand-fan idea, his book "So You Wanna Be a Rockstar," and saving Nashville's Douglas Corner by building The Eighth Room. What does three decades in the industry teach you about who actually makes it?

๐ŸŽต Book: "So You Wanna Be a Rockstar"

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Biggest Mistake
1:59 Meet Jason Hollis
3:17 From Nashville to LA and Back
7:22 Advice for Aspiring Musicians
11:44 The Book: So You Wanna Be a Rockstar
14:23 The Thousand-Fan Theory
16:41 Building a Career Independently
23:06 The Viper Room and Legends
25:46 Saving Douglas Corner
29:17 The Eighth Room
48:07 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> Gray's Anatomy: A Chat With Tanner Lee Gray About Solo Career https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/gray_s_anatomy_a_chat_with_tanner_lee_gray_about_solo_career A member of Certainly So steps out on his own, between band life and a solo voice. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Tanner Lee Gray plays in the rising band Certain... Mon, 12 Jan 2026 13:10:37 +0000 1840 Jason English false full 115 A member of Certainly So steps out on his own, between band life and a solo voice.

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Tanner Lee Gray plays in the rising band Certainly So, and this conversation is about stepping out on his own. He talks about the many "homes" that shaped his sound, the cover-gig grind along the Gulf Coast, and the sacrifices of going full-time. He closes with "Time and Money" and "I Feel Free." What do you give up, and what do you find, when you finally chase the solo thing?

๐ŸŽต Also in: Certainly So

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Past Musical Endeavors
1:25 Meet Tanner Lee Gray
2:06 Influences
3:45 Pursuing a Solo Career
6:44 The Influence of Home
9:16 Side Jobs and Music
16:05 The Touring Grind
19:56 The Gulf Coast
22:41 60 Seconds of Curiosity
24:40 Live Performance: "Time and Money" + "I Feel Free"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Nashville Artist Finds Freedom in the Unknown: A Chat with Sammi Accola https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/nashville_artist_finds_freedom_in_the_unknown_a_chat_with_sammi_accola A Nashville songwriter on faith, the gray areas, and writing from Thistle Farms. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Sammi Accola makes Americana with a gritty edge, a... Sun, 11 Jan 2026 17:07:54 +0000 2411 Jason English false full 114 A Nashville songwriter on faith, the gray areas, and writing from Thistle Farms.

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Sammi Accola makes Americana with a gritty edge, and her work at Thistle Farms, a residential program for women survivors of trafficking and addiction, has reshaped how she writes. She talks about a faith that's made room for the gray areas, the place of women in Christian music, and songs that have gotten more honest and cinematic. She closes with "Mona Lisa" and "Turning the Tables." What opens up in your songwriting when you let go of needing to be certain?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Faith and Life's Journey
2:02 Meet Sammi Accola
2:14 Her Work at Thistle Farms
3:03 Personal Life
9:59 The Creative Process
15:13 Faith in Modern Times
19:53 The Complexity of Christian Music
21:43 Women in Christian Music
26:25 Music as Healing
31:40 Live Performance: "Mona Lisa"
36:40 Live Performance: "Turning the Tables"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Rockstar Priest: A Chat with John Francis O'Mara https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/rockstar_priest_a_chat_with_john_francis_o_mara An Episcopalian priest who waited a decade to release a rock record Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) John Francis O'Mara is an ordained Episcopalian priest and a rock-and-roll l... Wed, 07 Jan 2026 13:41:29 +0000 2982 Jason English false full 113 An Episcopalian priest who waited a decade to release a rock record

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John Francis O'Mara is an ordained Episcopalian priest and a rock-and-roll lifer, and his album "Forbidden Hymns" sat finished for a decade before release. He traces the road from Princeton divinity school to working with John Carter Cash, the blurring of sacred and secular, and a recovery journey that runs underneath the songs. What does a decade of waiting do to a record, and to the person who made it?

๐ŸŽต John Francis O'Mara's latest: Forbidden Hymns

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Meet John Francis O'Mara
2:42 The Story Behind Forbidden Hymns
3:53 A Decade-Long Delay
8:19 How Song Meanings Evolve
14:45 A Unique Background
15:38 Music and Faith Intertwined
20:45 Sacred and Secular
33:24 Faith and Sobriety
39:46 Songwriting Stories
48:10 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Sweet Megg: She's 'Never Been Home' Until Now https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_sweet_megg_she_s_never_been_home_until_now From jazz to Americana, New York to Paris, a singer finally finding home Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Sweet Megg talks about her album "Never Been Home" and the move from ja... Sun, 04 Jan 2026 14:08:19 +0000 2220 Jason English false full 80 From jazz to Americana, New York to Paris, a singer finally finding home

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Sweet Megg talks about her album "Never Been Home" and the move from jazz toward Americana that came with it. She gets into the story behind her stage name, balancing love and a career, and a life lived between New York, Nashville, and Paris. It is her most personal record yet, and she closes with a performance. What does it mean to finally find a place you can call home?

๐ŸŽต Sweet Megg's latest: Never Been Home

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:47 The Upcoming Album
1:13 The Stage Name and the Journey
3:31 Viral Success and Collaborations
11:06 Life in Nashville
15:20 Album Themes
17:05 Her Most Personal Album
19:19 Challenges and Growth
21:34 A Turbulent Love Story
25:49 Love and Wanderlust
40:05 Final Thoughts and Tour

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Lily Vakili: Assuming Competence & Embracing Change https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_lily_vakili_assuming_competence_embracing_change A Kansas fossil museum sparked an album about digging up buried strength Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Lily Vakili built "Oceans of Kansas" around a visit to a fossil museum ... Thu, 01 Jan 2026 17:52:42 +0000 2464 Jason English false full 112 A Kansas fossil museum sparked an album about digging up buried strength

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Lily Vakili built "Oceans of Kansas" around a visit to a fossil museum in western Kansas and the idea of unearthing strength you forgot you had, especially after her band broke up. She is open about raising a son with autism, the lesson of assuming competence, and a life shaped by a diverse background and human-rights work. She closes with "Okoboji" and "April Fools." What do you dig up when you go looking for what is buried in you?

๐ŸŽต Lily Vakili's latest: Oceans of Kansas

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Resilience Through Change
1:36 The Album "Oceans of Kansas"
3:17 Touring and Inspirations
8:37 Personal Challenges
15:30 Assume Competence
19:14 Background and Human Rights
24:16 The Power of Music
26:00 Reflections on the Album
28:14 Orphan Songs
30:16 60 Seconds of Curiosity
34:21 Live Performance: "Okoboji" + "April Fools"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Midlife & Music: A Chat with Matthew Perryman Jones https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/midlife_music_a_chat_with_matthew_perryman_jones At fifty, the parts of yourself you only meet in midlife Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Matthew Perryman Jones sits on a Nashville back porch and talks about turning fifty and... Sat, 27 Dec 2025 00:39:15 +0000 3583 Jason English true full 111 At fifty, the parts of yourself you only meet in midlife

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Matthew Perryman Jones sits on a Nashville back porch and talks about turning fifty and the hidden parts of yourself that surface in midlife. He gets into mental health, the long arc of his career, and writing with real emotional depth. He shares the story behind "Cancion de La Noche" and an unusual recording process, then closes with "A Long Way Home From Here" off "Cold Answer." What do you find when you finally get curious about your own midlife?

๐ŸŽต Matthew Perryman Jones' latest: Cold Answer

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Midlife Reflections
3:15 The Interview Begins
4:00 Turning 50
6:14 Nashville and Career Beginnings
13:57 Creativity and Songwriting
20:26 Curiosity and Growth
28:18 The Healing Power of Music
33:59 Mental Health Challenges
39:01 The Story of "Cancion de La Noche"
42:51 The Recording Process
51:15 Current Journey and Plans

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with The Band Loula: Swamp Grass is Here to Stay https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_the_band_loula_swamp_grass_is_here_to_stay Two North Georgia friends and a sound they call swamp grass Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Logan Simmons and Malachi Mills of The Band Loula talk about how the band came toget... Sat, 20 Dec 2025 20:49:02 +0000 2858 Jason English false full 110 Two North Georgia friends and a sound they call swamp grass

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Logan Simmons and Malachi Mills of The Band Loula talk about how the band came together, the North Georgia roots behind their "swamp grass" sound, and the friendship and faith that hold it together. They get into recording at Ivy Manor and the touring grind of an up-and-coming band, then close with a live performance. What keeps a young band grounded as things start to take off?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Georgia Roots
1:43 Meet The Band Loula
3:25 First AmericanaFest
4:38 Collaborations and Influences
5:43 Recording at Ivy Manor
13:40 Touring Challenges
18:09 Future Plans
25:20 Faith and Personal Growth
36:48 Georgia Roots and Inspirations
38:09 60 Seconds of Curiosity
Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Is There Anything He Can't Do: A Chat with Hall of Fame Songwriter Marcus Hummon https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/is_there_anything_he_can_t_do_a_chat_with_hall_of_fame_songwriter_marcus_hummon A Hall of Fame songwriter who set Emily Dickinson's poems to music Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Marcus Hummon wrote "Bless the Broken Road" and "Cowboy Take Me Away," and no... Mon, 15 Dec 2025 03:14:19 +0000 3048 Jason English false full 109 A Hall of Fame songwriter who set Emily Dickinson's poems to music

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Marcus Hummon wrote "Bless the Broken Road" and "Cowboy Take Me Away," and now he is setting Emily Dickinson's poetry to music on "Songs for Emily." He talks about a career that moves between three-minute hits and full operas, the women who have shaped his imagination, and collaborations with Mary Chapin Carpenter and Darrell Scott. What keeps a Hall of Fame writer chasing brand-new forms this far in?

๐ŸŽต Marcus Hummon's latest: Songs for Emily

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Appeal of Dickinson
1:38 Meet Marcus Hummon
2:36 The Magic of Songwriting
3:46 Collaborations and Inspirations
7:05 Emily Dickinson's Influence
8:52 Setting Poetry to Music
25:17 A Lifetime Achievement Award
29:46 Storytelling in Music
39:40 The Journey of "Bless the Broken Road"
47:21 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Louie TheSinger: Is he too Texan for Mexicans & Vice Versa? https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/louie_thesinger_is_he_too_texan_for_mexicans_vice_versa Too Texan for Mexico, too Mexican for Texas, and finding a way back Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Louie TheSinger grew up in Fort Worth caught between two cultures, and his m... Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:26:55 +0000 2528 Jason English false full 88 Too Texan for Mexico, too Mexican for Texas, and finding a way back

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Louie TheSinger grew up in Fort Worth caught between two cultures, and his music sits right in that tension. He talks about the new album "One for the Hometown," the weight behind "If I Die Tomorrow," a hard 2018 of loss and guilt, time in prison, and the faith and fatherhood that pulled him forward. He is heading into his biggest tour yet. What does it take to build a life back from the bottom?

๐ŸŽต Louie TheSinger's latest: One for the Hometown

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:41 The New Album and Tour
2:03 The Story of "If I Die Tomorrow"
4:16 Artistic Process and Authenticity
6:34 Growing Up in Fort Worth
13:40 Identity in the Industry
19:28 A Message of Hope
21:06 2018: Loss and Guilt
23:52 Coping and Finding Faith
25:59 Prison and Musical Aspirations
30:30 The Biggest Tour Yet
39:01 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Great Lake Swimmers: Thriving, Not Just Surviving, After 20 Years https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_great_lake_swimmers_thriving_not_just_surviving_after_20_years Twenty years and nine albums in, the goal shifts from surviving to thriving Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Tony Dekker of Great Lake Swimmers opens up about the band's ninth a... Tue, 09 Dec 2025 13:40:35 +0000 1907 Jason English false full 108 Twenty years and nine albums in, the goal shifts from surviving to thriving

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Tony Dekker of Great Lake Swimmers opens up about the band's ninth album, "Caught Light," and an instinctive way of writing that has kept him going two decades. He gets into recording in a converted farmhouse, the strange new logistics of touring, and how family life and loneliness both shape the songs. What does it take to keep a band thriving, not just lasting, after twenty years?

๐ŸŽต Great Lake Swimmers' latest: Caught Light

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Songwriting Instincts
1:36 Meet Tony Dekker
1:40 The New Album "Caught Light"
3:29 Touring and Feedback
5:13 Songwriting Process and Themes
7:40 The Logistics of Touring
12:28 Recording in Unique Places
19:37 Loneliness and Connection
21:19 The Pandemic's Impact
28:50 60 Seconds of Curiosity
31:31 Future Outlook

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]]> A Chat with Webb Wilder: Meet Him Again for the First Time https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_webb_wilder_meet_him_again_for_the_first_time An Americana legend on aging, sobriety, gratitude, and a record called Hillbilly Speedball. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Webb Wilder has been an Americana fixtu... Mon, 01 Dec 2025 13:10:25 +0000 2394 Jason English false full 107 An Americana legend on aging, sobriety, gratitude, and a record called Hillbilly Speedball.

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Webb Wilder has been an Americana fixture for decades, and at AmericanaFest he's reflective: about getting older, his sobriety, and the gratitude that comes with both. He talks about the album "Hillbilly Speedball," the Webb Wilder persona, and the Elvis and Tom Petty threads in his DNA. What does a music lifer learn about himself once the noise quiets down?

๐ŸŽต Webb Wilder's latest: Hillbilly Speedball

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Reflecting on Life and Mortality
3:04 AmericanaFest and Career Highlights
6:01 WMOT Roots Radio
8:46 New Music
16:30 Farewell With Four
20:28 Southern Roots and Elvis
21:56 Tom Petty and Rock 'n' Roll
23:51 The Webb Wilder Persona
26:15 Sobriety and Growth
32:16 Hillbilly Speedball
37:57 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Marriage & Murder Ballads: A Chat with South for Winter https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/marriage_murder_ballads_a_chat_with_south_for_winter A married duo on scheduling creativity, dodging AI, and maybe moving to New Zealand. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Dani and Nick of South for Winter make genre-b... Sat, 29 Nov 2025 01:10:39 +0000 2569 Jason English false full 106 A married duo on scheduling creativity, dodging AI, and maybe moving to New Zealand.

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Dani and Nick of South for Winter make genre-bending roots music and a marriage work at the same time. They talk about scheduling creativity, their take on AI's limits in roots music, and the big life questions: relocating to New Zealand, starting a family. They close with "This Man Will Be the Death of Me" and "All I Want to Do." How do you keep a marriage and a band healthy when they're the same thing?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Creative Struggles
1:37 Meet Dani and Nick
1:55 Managing Marriage and Music
4:39 The Evolution of Their Sound
12:33 Musical Influences
14:35 Creative Process and Future
19:03 AI in the Music Industry
23:03 Life as an Independent Band
27:47 Future Aspirations
36:36 Live Performance: "This Man Will Be the Death of Me"
39:46 Live Performance: "All I Want to Do"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Cyrena Wages: The Wages of Life is Love https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_cyrena_wages_the_wages_of_life_is_love Memphis's pride returns with new confidence, a new album, and an engagement ring Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Cyrena Wages comes back to the show with more confidence than t... Wed, 19 Nov 2025 12:07:00 +0000 2010 Jason English false full 105 Memphis's pride returns with new confidence, a new album, and an engagement ring

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Cyrena Wages comes back to the show with more confidence than the first time around. She talks about her growth since "The Vanity Project," an upcoming album, the new single "Miss Melancholia," and an engagement that is reshaping her life. The Memphis-Nashville pull runs through all of it. What changes in the music when you finally trust yourself?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Self-Confidence
1:24 Reintroducing Cyrena Wages
1:54 Her Journey and Growth
6:59 Memphis and Nashville
11:51 Looking Back at The Vanity Project
17:54 The New Album
18:10 The Story of "Miss Melancholia"
20:23 Future Singles
23:16 Engagement and Personal Life
29:31 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Matt Rogers: Ground Beef and Garth Brooks: The Reality of Chasing Greatness. https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_matt_rogers_ground_beef_and_garth_brooks_the_reality_of_chasing_greatness He left the medical field for Nashville, and wrote about the veteran suicides nobody talks about Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Matt Rogers traded a medical career for a songw... Tue, 18 Nov 2025 23:48:43 +0000 2200 Jason English false full 104 He left the medical field for Nashville, and wrote about the veteran suicides nobody talks about

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Matt Rogers traded a medical career for a songwriting one in Nashville. He talks about the writing behind "Camouflage," a song about veteran suicide, along with "You Are My Hallelujah" and "White Trash Royalty." He is candid about dating in the music business and the fiancรฉe who steadied him, and he closes with "Camouflage." What keeps an artist chasing greatness without losing himself in it?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Philosophy of Songwriting
1:36 Meet Matt Rogers
3:00 The Journey to Nashville
4:11 The Songwriting Process
8:10 Songwriting as Therapy
12:06 The Story of "Camouflage"
14:47 "Hallelujah" and "White Trash Royalty"
22:00 The Realities of the Industry
27:37 The Engagement Story
31:46 60 Seconds of Curiosity
33:15 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> American Idol to American Pastime: Gina Venier Telling Her Own Authentic Story https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/american_idol_to_american_pastime_gina_venier_telling_her_own_authentic_story From American Idol to a Wrigley Field anthem on her own terms Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Gina Venier traces the road from Midwestern roots to Nashville, with a stop at the... Mon, 17 Nov 2025 00:40:12 +0000 4409 Jason English false full 103 From American Idol to a Wrigley Field anthem on her own terms

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Gina Venier traces the road from Midwestern roots to Nashville, with a stop at the mic singing the national anthem at Wrigley Field. She is honest about her American Idol run and the pressure to turn a personal story into a product. Authenticity, curiosity, and community keep surfacing, and she closes the episode with "Nora Jane." What does it take to tell your own story instead of the one the industry wants?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Embracing Growth
1:38 Meet Gina Venier
4:11 A Love for Baseball
5:46 The Anthem at Wrigley Field
12:13 The Power of Connections
19:46 Midwestern Roots
22:38 Identity and Faith
27:40 The American Idol Experience
37:35 The Pressure to Exploit Your Story
45:18 Authentic Connections
49:29 60 Seconds of Curiosity
1:09:39 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Trains, Dylan & The Trickster: A Chat with Ketch Secor https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/trains_dylan_the_trickster_a_chat_with_ketch_secor The voice and fiddle of Old Crow Medicine Show on trains, Dylan, and tending country's roots Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Ketch Secor, the voice and fiddle of Old Crow Medic... Wed, 12 Nov 2025 01:44:15 +0000 3111 Jason English false full 99 The voice and fiddle of Old Crow Medicine Show on trains, Dylan, and tending country's roots

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Ketch Secor, the voice and fiddle of Old Crow Medicine Show, talks about his solo album "Story the Crow Told Me" and his role as a steward of country music's history. He gets into trains and wanderlust, the long story of "Wagon Wheel" and Darius Rucker, and what Ken Burns' documentary stirred up. He is part historian, part trickster. What do you owe the tradition you inherit, and what do you get to reinvent?

๐ŸŽต Ketch Secor's latest: Story the Crow Told Me (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Power of Music
2:00 The Interview Begins
4:06 Railroad Revival Tour Memories
4:53 The Magic of Trains
11:34 "Wagon Wheel" and Darius Rucker
17:05 60 Seconds of Curiosity
20:28 Nashville's Musical Legacy
25:36 Ken Burns' Country Music
37:03 The Making of "Story the Crow Told Me"
45:27 Legacy and Mentorship
51:20 The Trickster's Wisdom

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]]> Uneducated Farmboy to Music Legend: A Chat with Roger Murrah https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/uneducated_farmboy_to_music_legend_a_chat_with_roger_murrah Fourteen number-one hits, and he still calls a great song "magic" he can't fully explain. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Roger Murrah moved from an Alabama farm t... Mon, 20 Oct 2025 12:00:00 +0000 4073 Jason English false full 101 Fourteen number-one hits, and he still calls a great song "magic" he can't fully explain.

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Roger Murrah moved from an Alabama farm to Music Row in 1972 and spent five decades writing songs you already know, from Alabama's "High Cotton" to Al Jarreau's "We're in This Love Together." At 78, a Nashville Songwriters Hall of Famer and BMI's Songwriter of the Decade for the 1980s, he is still writing and still pitching, including a new one he hopes lands on Alan Jackson's final album. He walks Jason through the line between a good song and an exceptional one, the kind of magic he can recognize but never quite explain, then lets Jason hand him raw lyrics to edit on the spot. What separates a line that is merely good from one that stops you cold?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 โ†’ Cold Open: Good Songs vs. Exceptional Ones
2:50 โ†’ From an Alabama Farm to Music Row
5:34 โ†’ Still Writing at 78, Still Pitching Alan Jackson
7:52 โ†’ Selling the Catalog, Keeping the Unheard Songs
9:11 โ†’ The Anatomy of Magic
11:34 โ†’ Lyric, Melody, and the Hook
13:45 โ†’ Fourteen Number Ones and Songwriter of the Decade
18:00 โ†’ "High Cotton" and the Autobiographical Lyric
22:21 โ†’ "We're in This Love Together" and "Ozark Mountain Jubilee"
25:46 โ†’ The Songs He Wishes He'd Written
29:00 โ†’ Rick Hall, Muscle Shoals, and the Magic
39:06 โ†’ Waylon Jennings and the Audiobiography
42:19 โ†’ A Room Full of Icons: "What Are We Doing Here?"
45:44 โ†’ Writer or Co-Writer: What Counts
48:02 โ†’ Can Songwriting Be Taught?
50:52 โ†’ Faith, Divorce, and Where Emotion Comes From
56:16 โ†’ Putting the Editing to the Test
1:05:21 โ†’ 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Return Home to the South: A Chat with Claire Holley https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_return_home_to_the_south_a_chat_with_claire_holley She came back to her grandmother's piano during the pandemic, and the family songs started arriving. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Claire Holley sat down at the ... Thu, 09 Oct 2025 12:00:00 +0000 3566 Jason English false full 100 She came back to her grandmother's piano during the pandemic, and the family songs started arriving.

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Claire Holley sat down at the childhood piano her grandmother made her learn on in third grade, and a record's worth of family stories came back with her. On this episode she talks with Jason English about her new album Where I Lived, the slow patience behind songs that can take fifteen years to finish, and why she stopped trying to move to Nashville and built a creative life in Los Angeles instead. She is candid about inheritance, the kind that runs through cancer and mental illness and also through grace. What do we carry from the people who made us, and what do we get to set down?

๐ŸŽต Claire Holley's latest: Where I Lived (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
3:18 Thirty Years and a College Cassette
8:45 Timeless Songs and Hymns
11:43 Family as the Center of Gravity
16:24 Nashville Versus Los Angeles
23:28 Film, Theater, and Faith Out West
28:18 Becoming a Songwriter
31:10 The New Record: "Where I Lived"
34:11 "Beauty School": Dolly and Tammy
38:32 "Night Air" and Letting the Music Lead
43:43 Where She Is, Where She's Headed
48:36 60 Seconds of Curiosity
53:08 Live Performance: "Bluebird"
55:38 Live Performance: "Night Air"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Shayfer James https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_shayfer_james Holding onto hope and love in dark times, written on a frozen Canadian coast. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Shayfer James called in from Calgary to talk about a ... Fri, 03 Oct 2025 12:38:30 +0000 2015 Jason English false full 98 Holding onto hope and love in dark times, written on a frozen Canadian coast.

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Shayfer James called in from Calgary to talk about a new album, his devoted fan base, and the balance between performing and the business behind it. He's thoughtful about staying authentic on social media and about writing toward hope and love when the world feels dark. A secluded month on Canada's frozen coast shaped a lot of the new songs. How do you keep making hopeful music without lying about the times you're in?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:46 Touring the New Album
1:56 The Challenges of Social Media
3:09 Balancing Art and Business
4:29 Staying Authentic in Dark Times
6:47 Connecting with Fans
8:15 60 Seconds of Curiosity
11:02 The Making of the Album
14:58 The Frozen Coast
19:40 Songwriting Insights
24:12 Themes of the Album
29:16 The Artistic Journey

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Alaina Stacey: EP Trilogy Captures Life's Experiences https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_alaina_stacey_ep_trilogy_captures_life_s_experiences She wrote a song from inside her grandfather's Alzheimer's, in his voice Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Alaina Stacey built a trilogy of EPs, "Dawn, Day, and Dusk," out of the... Tue, 16 Sep 2025 00:06:56 +0000 2380 Jason English false full 97 She wrote a song from inside her grandfather's Alzheimer's, in his voice

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Alaina Stacey built a trilogy of EPs, "Dawn, Day, and Dusk," out of the bittersweet parts of her life. She talks about past relationships, her years in the trio Maybe April, and writing "Stan" from her grandfather's perspective as Alzheimer's took hold. Motherhood is shifting how she sees all of it, and she closes with an acoustic "Stan." What do you hold onto when someone you love starts to disappear?

๐ŸŽต Alaina Stacey's latest: Dawn, Day, and Dusk (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Reflections on Past Relationships
1:35 Alaina's Musical Journey
4:13 The Trilogy of EPs
9:22 The Story of "Think of You"
12:54 The Story of "Insomnia"
16:43 The Song "Stan"
19:10 Stan's Battle with Alzheimer's
21:11 Writing in Stan's Voice
25:58 The Trio's Journey
29:33 Going Solo
32:28 60 Seconds of Curiosity
33:32 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Stocked Full of Family: A Chat with Trenton Wagler https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/stocked_full_of_family_a_chat_with_trenton_wagler The instrument his grandfather was never allowed to play bookends Trent Wagler's new solo album. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Trent Wagler, frontman of The Stee... Wed, 03 Sep 2025 13:00:00 +0000 4020 Jason English false full 96 The instrument his grandfather was never allowed to play bookends Trent Wagler's new solo album.

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Trent Wagler, frontman of The Steel Wheels, built his first solo record around family he almost left out of the story: a grandfather who grew up Amish and was never allowed to own an instrument, a sister he asked to play piano on a record for the first time in her life, and his own father and daughter singing beside him. This Might Be My Prime arrived in the same stretch of months as a new self-titled Steel Wheels album, both shaped by a band that has spent twenty years learning to listen to each other. Trent walks through the radio story that became the Steel Wheels song "Ghost of Myself," the discipline that replaced his teenage habit of writing through heartbreak, and the imposter syndrome that still shows up before every new song. What happens to the feeling of being in your prime once it passes?

๐ŸŽต Trent Wagler's latest: This Might Be My Prime (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction and Welcome
3:50 Coming Off the Red Wing Roots Festival
8:00 A First Look at the Steel Wheels' Self-Titled Album
13:15 The Story Behind "Ghost of Myself"
17:35 The Meaning Behind "This Might Be My Prime"
21:00 Ten Years Thinking About Going Solo
25:00 Sorting Songs Between the Band and the Solo Record
29:00 Bookending the Album with His Grandfather
33:00 A Family Affair: Sister, Dad, and Daughter
36:00 From Teenage Heartbreak to Daily Discipline
43:30 Imposter Syndrome and the Song "Imposter"
50:30 "I've Got Some Work to Do" and Owning Your Choices
53:00 Where the Steel Wheels Fit in the Bluegrass Lineage
1:03:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> A Chat with Caitlin Cannon: Going Deep with Nashville's 'Love Addict' https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_caitlin_cannon_going_deep_with_nashville_s_love_addict An Americana artist on radical honesty, industry ageism, and teaching songwriting behind bars. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Caitlin Cannon doesn't soften much. ... Fri, 29 Aug 2025 12:00:00 +0000 4125 Jason English true full 95 An Americana artist on radical honesty, industry ageism, and teaching songwriting behind bars.

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Caitlin Cannon doesn't soften much. She talks about the "Love Addict" album and the loneliness and divorce underneath it, pushing back on industry ageism in her forties, and the Beyond Bars program where she teaches songwriting to people in prison, work shaped by her own brother's incarceration. She's funny and unsparing in the same breath. What does radical honesty cost, and what does it give back?

๐ŸŽต Caitlin Cannon's latest: Love Addict

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Life on Tour and ADHD
2:30 The Kill Tony Moment
6:30 Trauma, Religion, and Americana
9:00 Industry Ageism
13:30 Inside "Love Addict"
15:15 Loneliness and Divorce
22:15 Married to the Music
28:15 "Jesus Is My Lover"
38:30 The Intimacy of Co-Writing
47:00 Teaching Songwriting in Prisons
52:30 "Waiting": A Song for Her Brother
58:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> A Chat with Levi Foster: Nashville Dreams Coming True After Living in a Van https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_levi_foster_nashville_dreams_coming_true_after_living_in_a_van He lived in a van to chase Nashville. Now Shooter Jennings is producing his record. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Levi Foster moved to Nashville on a whim and ma... Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:48:12 +0000 1970 Jason English false full 94 He lived in a van to chase Nashville. Now Shooter Jennings is producing his record.

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Levi Foster moved to Nashville on a whim and made a pact to live in his van until the music worked. He talks about the publishing deal that changed things, writing more than 300 songs, his debut "We Made Fire," and the TikTok-as-Johnny-Cash bit that accidentally became a brand. The headline: a full-length on the way, produced by Shooter Jennings. What does it cost to bet everything on a dream with no backup plan?

๐ŸŽต Levi Foster's debut: We Made Fire

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:15 Growing Up Near Liberty University
2:45 The Move to Nashville
4:10 Living in a Van
4:45 The Publishing Deal
6:15 Writing 300 Songs
11:15 The Album "We Made Fire"
14:15 The Story of "Emerald Eyes"
17:05 Reluctantly Embracing TikTok
23:30 Recording with Shooter Jennings
25:20 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> A Chat with Drew Copeland: After 30 Years, Sister Hazel Still Has the Fire https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_drew_copeland_after_30_years_sister_hazel_still_has_the_fire Thirty years into Sister Hazel, and the fire's still lit. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Drew Copeland of Sister Hazel looks back on thirty years of the band, fro... Fri, 22 Aug 2025 02:54:46 +0000 1795 Jason English false full 54 Thirty years into Sister Hazel, and the fire's still lit.

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Drew Copeland of Sister Hazel looks back on thirty years of the band, from the rise of "All For You" to a fan community that keeps them on the road. He talks about the new album "Sand, Sea and Crash Debris," a memorable run on The Price is Right, and what it takes to keep a band and its relationships intact this long. How does a band stay in it for three decades without burning out?

๐ŸŽต Sister Hazel's latest: Sand, Sea and Crash Debris

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:52 The New Record
1:35 The Price is Right
3:39 Thirty Years of Sister Hazel
7:33 "All For You" and the Journey
10:21 The New Album
11:55 Songwriting Insights
19:10 Fan Engagement and Longevity
24:02 60 Seconds of Curiosity
26:36 Closing Thoughts

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]]> A Promise to Make it Through the Winter: A Chat with Naomi Westwater https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_promise_to_make_it_through_the_winter_a_chat_with_naomi_westwater A queer, Black folk artist who records like she's casting a spell, on seasons, loss, and choosing optimism on purpose. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Naomi Westwa... Wed, 20 Aug 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2986 Jason English false full 93 A queer, Black folk artist who records like she's casting a spell, on seasons, loss, and choosing optimism on purpose.

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Naomi Westwater makes folk, soul, and ritual that doubles as a survival practice. A few weeks after releasing her album Cycle and Change, she sat down with Jason English to talk about writing a record that moves through the seasons, recording it in a converted 1800s church for the natural light and reverb, and finding her footing through a hard year that included losing her father. She is candid about being a queer, Black artist in a folk world that isn't always diverse, about reclaiming the word witch, and about the Reclaiming Folk and We Make Noise events she built to make room for other artists. What does it take to choose optimism when the easier thing would be to give up on it?

๐ŸŽต Naomi Westwater's latest: Cycle and Change (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:03 Summer Solstice and Manifesting
2:09 A Season of Transition
3:22 Her Father, Cape Cod, and the Seasons
5:19 Early Feedback on the New Record
7:19 Writing an Album Without Realizing It
8:45 Songs Written Across the Seasons
11:07 A Song That Isn't For Anyone
14:02 Moving Through a Hard Winter
17:00 Why the Album Works as One Piece
19:55 Still Believing in the Album
21:21 Recording in an 1800s Church
23:26 Salem, Witches, and Reclaiming a Word
25:57 Parents Who Were Completely Woo
30:37 Berklee, Spain, and Cape Cod Roots
33:42 Being a Black Artist in Folk
35:49 Reclaiming Folk, Day to Day
40:48 The Freelance Musician's Many Hats
44:30 We Make Noise Fest
47:19 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> They've Wandered Into the Hearts of Millions: A Chat with Crowe Boys https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/they_ve_wandered_into_the_hearts_of_millions_a_chat_with_crowe_boys They once played a show nobody came to. Now they're selling out Europe. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Brothers Ocie and Wes Crowe grew up playing gospel in churc... Mon, 11 Aug 2025 13:00:00 +0000 3276 Jason English false full 91 They once played a show nobody came to. Now they're selling out Europe.

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Brothers Ocie and Wes Crowe grew up playing gospel in churches out of an RV, lost their mom young, and walked away from the Christian music industry to make songs on their own terms. Their debut album Made to Wander turns brotherhood, anxiety, and a show literally nobody attended into a record you can play start to finish. They get into the cheap advice behind "Bootstraps," the honesty inside "Brother Song," and the unwanted TikTok take that pulled them out of obscurity in a single night. They are unbothered about where they rank and clear about why they make music at all. So what keeps two brothers grounded when overnight fame shows up by accident?

๐ŸŽต Crowe Boys' latest: Made to Wander (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
1:00 Their Grand Ole Opry Debut
5:00 Growing Up a Touring Family Band
8:00 Losing Their Mom and Finding Their Own Sound
10:00 Why They Left the Christian Music Industry
12:00 The New Album, "Made to Wander"
14:00 "Bootstraps" and the Trap of Cheap Advice
17:00 "Brother Song" and Writing Through the Hard Stuff
23:00 "Good Days" and the Show Nobody Came To
30:00 The Music Video Trilogy and the Time Machine
40:00 The TikTok Video That Changed Everything
47:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> The Songs He Couldn't Hand Off: A Chat with Mike Delevante https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/the_songs_he_couldn_t_hand_off_a_chat_with_mike_delevante Thirty years in Americana, and his debut solo album almost became another record with his brother. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Mike Delevante spent the 1990s e... Thu, 31 Jul 2025 12:00:00 +0000 3523 Jason English false full 90 Thirty years in Americana, and his debut solo album almost became another record with his brother.

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Mike Delevante spent the 1990s earning critical praise as one half of The Delevantes, then stepped back from full-time music for the better part of two decades. The batch of songs that became September Days started as a possible reunion with his brother Bob, until Mike realized the material was too personal to hand off. He talks with Jason about teaching himself to finish songs alone, the band of old friends who showed up to play, and two songs at the album's center: "I Wrote to You," built on his parents' nearly sixty-year love story, and "The Rain Never Came," a reckoning with the end-times religion of his youth. What does it take to make your most personal record only after thirty years of helping make everyone else's?

๐ŸŽต Mike Delevante's latest: September Days (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:46 Going Solo After Thirty Years
1:32 September Days, the Debut Album
4:00 The Band of Friends Behind the Record
5:51 Being His Own Final Judge
9:23 No Rust After All These Years
12:15 The Day Job and a Creative Life
17:22 What People Still Want From Music
21:35 Learning to Finish the Songs
30:15 A Label, a Legacy
37:49 "I Wrote to You": His Parents' Love Story
47:17 "The Rain Never Came": Faith and the End Times
56:02 60 Seconds of Curiosity
58:43 Farewell With Four

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> He Found Himself in the 'Lonesome Valley': A Chat with Wyatt Espalin https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/he_found_himself_in_the_lonesome_valley_a_chat_with_wyatt_espalin He writes songs beside men in prison, and refuses to call them anything but gentlemen. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Wyatt Espalin grew up on his family's bluegr... Mon, 28 Jul 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2690 Jason English false full 78 He writes songs beside men in prison, and refuses to call them anything but gentlemen.

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Wyatt Espalin grew up on his family's bluegrass campground in the North Georgia mountains, and he still writes from that same quiet. On this episode he tells Jason English about sitting beside men in prison through a songwriting outreach, watching people who did terrible things make something beautiful, and refusing to call them anything but gentlemen. He talks about leaving Nashville to guide rafts on a river, turning fifty, and finally writing songs for himself before anyone else. His new album Lies From the Lonesome Valley, with guests like Amy Ray, came together over a long rollout from the hills he calls home. When you spend your days asking what other people are capable of, what do you start to wonder about yourself?

๐ŸŽต Wyatt Espalin's latest: Lies From the Lonesome Valley (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:57 Beyond Bars: The Men Who Stayed With Him
7:53 From Ministry to Songwriting With Veterans
11:26 Growing Up on the Campground
13:58 The New Album: Lies From the Lonesome Valley
15:30 Amy Ray and the River Stones
20:09 Folk Roots and the Carter Family Sound
23:07 The Valleys: Depression, Loss, and Healing
26:00 Leaving Nashville to Guide River Rafts
29:00 Writing Songs for Himself
30:21 Turning Fifty, Dating, and the Rollout
36:07 60 Seconds of Curiosity
37:20 Live Performance: "You Had It All"
41:29 Live Performance: "Dim"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Anna Shinholster https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/anna_shinholster Performing since 14, writing songs like a journal she's too lazy to keep otherwise Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Anna Shinholster has been playing professional g... Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:00:00 +0000 1790 Jason English false full 89 Performing since 14, writing songs like a journal she's too lazy to keep otherwise

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Anna Shinholster has been playing professional gigs since she was 14, and now she's a college student at Middle Tennessee State balancing class with a third run at the 30A Songwriters Festival. The Woodstock, Georgia songwriter treats her music like a personal journal, the place she processes a breakup or a stretch of being unsure, and she's honest that most of those songs never leave the notebook. She gets into the story behind "Same Fish," why "Butterflies" is really about the people we lose, and whether she has enough songs for a first album. She closes with both songs live from 30A. What does an artist who started this young still want to figure out?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:45 The Woodstock Connection
1:45 Three Years at the 30A Festival
2:56 A Student at Middle Tennessee State
6:32 Dreaming of Music Full-Time
10:42 Life Outside Music
11:48 Songwriting as a Personal Journal
14:12 Enough Songs for an Album?
14:57 Describing Her Sound
16:21 "Same Fish"
18:05 60 Seconds of Curiosity
22:17 Live Performance: "Same Fish" & "Butterflies"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Nothing Comes Natural: A Chat with Graham Sharp of Steep Canyon Rangers https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/nothing_comes_natural_a_chat_with_graham_sharp_of_steep_canyon_rangers A Grammy-winning banjo player on why nothing he does comes naturally. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Graham Sharp helped redefine modern bluegrass as the banjo en... Mon, 07 Jul 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2736 Jason English false full 86 A Grammy-winning banjo player on why nothing he does comes naturally.

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Graham Sharp helped redefine modern bluegrass as the banjo engine of the Grammy-winning Steep Canyon Rangers. On his second solo album, How Did We Do It, he trades the band's high-octane drive for something closer to a porch swing: songs about marriage, endurance, and the unglamorous work behind a creative life. He talks about finding his own voice inside a tradition that rewards repetition, what two decades beside Steve Martin taught him about preparation, and a title track written as a plain love letter to his wife. What does a life in music ask of the people who help build it?

๐ŸŽต Graham Sharp's latest: How Did We Do It (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
1:37 Asheville After Hurricane Helene
6:02 Boulder, eTown, and the Bluegrass Family Tree
7:30 Finding Your Own Voice in a Tradition
9:00 Bluegrass as a Door, Not a Cage
10:30 The Early-2000s Bluegrass Resurgence
14:30 Leading the Band Through Change
18:57 What Steve Martin Taught Him About Work
28:34 The Solo Album: How Did We Do It
30:13 A Love Letter to His Wife
33:32 Songwriting and First Impressions
36:07 Twenty Years of Marriage on the Road
38:31 Empty Nesting and the Next Chapter
41:11 Where He Wants to Be
43:01 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Sibling Secrets Other Bands Won't Get: A Chat With The Native Sibling https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/sibling_secrets_other_bands_won_t_get_a_chat_with_the_native_sibling For two siblings, love songs are off limits, so they write about loss, faith, and family instead. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Ryan Williams and Kaylee Bowling ... Wed, 02 Jul 2025 12:17:55 +0000 2751 Jason English false full 85 For two siblings, love songs are off limits, so they write about loss, faith, and family instead.

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Ryan Williams and Kaylee Bowling caught up with Jason from opposite coasts, Ryan settled into Nashville's session-player world, Kaylee tucked into Washington's Olympic Peninsula finishing a graduate degree in theological studies. Ten years after their debut, the pair revisited Letters Kept to Ourselves for an anniversary re-release, adding a song they almost left off the record the first time around. They talk through the strange math of sibling harmony, the mother they lost and the song that became a way of carrying her, and the pub session in Ireland that convinced them this could actually be a band. What do you do with a shared history when you're no longer in the same room to write it?

๐ŸŽต The Native Sibling's latest: Letters Kept to Ourselves (10th Anniversary Edition, 2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome and New Year Check-In
0:41 Meet Ryan Williams and Kaylee Bowling of The Native Sibling
3:03 Kaylee's Single "Rest Is the Right" and Exploring Faith
4:00 Revisiting Letters Kept to Ourselves for the 10th Anniversary
8:08 Sibling Harmony and the Evolution of Their Voices
10:12 What the Album Means to Them Today
12:52 "Here With Me": A Song Written for Their Mother
16:38 The Challenges and Gifts of Making Music as Siblings
21:00 "Darkest of Night Skies" and the Spirit of Johnny Appleseed
25:49 The Irish Pub Where It All Started
28:55 Current Projects: Session Work and Grad School
33:42 Faith, Doubt, and Finding a Voice Beyond Certainty
42:40 Where They Want to Be as Artists
43:34 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> Out of Heartbreak Songs: A Chat with Liz Longley https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/out_of_heartbreak_songs_a_chat_with_liz_longley She built a career on heartbreak songs. Then she got happy, and had to find something new to say. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Liz Longley sat on her porch and ... Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:00:00 +0000 1325 Jason English false full 84 She built a career on heartbreak songs. Then she got happy, and had to find something new to say.

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Liz Longley sat on her porch and cried through a postpartum depression she never saw coming, then turned it into songs. At the 30A Songwriters Festival, the Berklee-trained writer talks with Jason about going independent, raising six figures from fans to buy her own music back, and what happens to a songwriter who spent years mining her failed love life once she finally finds happiness. Her album New Life traces motherhood, gratitude, and the worry of raising a child in an uncertain world. What does an artist write about when the heartbreak runs out?

๐ŸŽต Liz Longley's latest: New Life (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:44 Recharging Around Other Artists at 30A
1:38 The TED Talk in Reno
2:44 How Motherhood Changed Everything
5:03 The New Album, New Life
6:51 What She Worries About for Her Daughter
7:49 Learning to Write at Berklee
9:29 Writing for Connection
10:14 Running Out of Heartbreak Songs
11:39 The Songs She Loves to Sing Live
12:49 Releasing "Wake You Up"
14:35 Kickstarter, Patreon, and the Lizards
17:11 Where She Is as an Artist
17:55 60 Seconds of Curiosity
19:05 AI and the Future of Artistry

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Sounds Like Us: A Chat With Goldpine https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/sounds_like_us_a_chat_with_goldpine A married duo who recorded their new album onstage, one stitched-together take at a time. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Kassie and Ben Wilson have been married f... Sun, 22 Jun 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2378 Jason English false full 82 A married duo who recorded their new album onstage, one stitched-together take at a time.

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Kassie and Ben Wilson have been married fifteen years and make music as Goldpine, a Nashville duo whose harmonies come from a partnership built onstage and off. They talk about writing from raw, unglamorous honesty, playing the Bluebird for an Alive Hospice benefit after Kassie's mother passed, and why they have never wanted a place in the Christian music industry even as faith runs through everything they do. Their new album Three was pieced together from live recordings, a verse from one show and a chorus from another. What holds a marriage and a band together when the plan is to keep changing?

๐ŸŽต Goldpine's latest: Three (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:46 Fifteen Years Married, and What They Admire in Each Other
3:48 Music as Ministry
6:46 Why Not the Christian Music Industry
8:00 Honesty, Shame, and Talking About Addiction
10:52 The Bluebird and an Alive Hospice Benefit
13:34 "Alabama Born" and Growing Up in the Country
17:03 The Pull of Brandi Carlisle
19:59 "Lean Into the Turns" with Radney Foster
21:31 Inside Their Songwriting Process
24:01 "Confessions" and the Cell Phone
25:39 Recording an Album Onstage
27:55 The Three Tour
29:53 Where They Are, and Where They Want to Go
33:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> Why He Gave Up on Stardom: A Chat with Griffin House https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/why_he_gave_up_on_stardom_a_chat_with_griffin_house He hated being called a Rising Star. Twenty years in, he finally stopped chasing it. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Griffin House sits down with Jason at the 30A ... Tue, 17 Jun 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2341 Jason English false full 81 He hated being called a Rising Star. Twenty years in, he finally stopped chasing it.

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Griffin House sits down with Jason at the 30A Songwriters Festival, a stretch of Florida coast he has been coming to since he was eleven. He talks about the documentary that followed his early grind: the van, the merch box, the nights playing to forty people, and the title "Rising Star" he never wanted. Two decades and more than a dozen albums later, he has traded the hunger of a young artist for something quieter, three songs a year, sobriety, and a front-row seat to his daughter finding her own voice. What happens to an artist when the striving finally stops?

๐ŸŽต Griffin House's latest: Summer Dream (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:45 Why 30A Feels Like Home
2:44 The Pride Of Springfield, Ohio
5:09 Busking In Cincinnati
6:26 Revisiting The Rising Star Documentary
8:01 The Grind And The Empty Room
10:35 Watching His Daughter Find Her Voice
11:16 The Title He Never Wanted
12:04 Writing Three Songs A Year
16:02 Songwriting As Therapy
17:15 Living Through The Industry's Shift
18:45 Getting Sober And Staying There
20:39 Present As A Husband And Father
22:10 60 Seconds of Curiosity
26:13 The Song For His Grandfather
30:12 Live Performance: "I Remember"
35:35 Live Performance: "The Guy That Says Goodbye To You Is Out Of His Mind"

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]]> One Show Stole it. One Gave It Back: A Chat with Jacquie Roar https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/one_show_stole_it_one_gave_it_back_a_chat_with_jacquie_roar One show stole her confidence. The other gave it back tenfold. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jacquie Roar wrote her anthem "That's the Spirit" miserable and runn... Mon, 09 Jun 2025 12:00:00 +0000 3516 Jason English false full 79 One show stole her confidence. The other gave it back tenfold.

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Jacquie Roar wrote her anthem "That's the Spirit" miserable and running on no sleep the morning after karaoke, because the Curb session was booked and she showed up anyway. The North Plains, Oregon singer talks with Jason English about her four-chair turn on The Voice, the six months away from her daughter, and why she's building a career from the Pacific Northwest instead of moving to Nashville. She's candid about an earlier reality show that nearly made her quit music for good, and about the relationship she had to leave before she could write her next single, "Other Side." With a debut album taking shape from songs cut in a Joshua Tree mansion, she's chasing something bigger than a zip code. What does success look like when you refuse to choose between motherhood and the stage?

๐ŸŽต Jacquie Roar's latest single: "That's the Spirit" (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
1:26 The New Single and an Album Taking Shape
4:04 From Karaoke Nights to The Voice
9:22 Life During the Six-Month Taping
12:51 The American Idol Experience
22:08 Real Talk and Dinner With Reba
31:40 The Steal and the Battle With Bias
36:53 Learning to Write With Others
41:46 "Other Side" and Getting Out
47:05 Motherhood and Breaking the Cycle
51:32 60 Seconds of Curiosity
53:26 Nashville, Oregon, and Shining Brighter

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]]> Don't Just Blow Bubbles, Follow Them: A Chat with Will Kimbrough https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/don_t_just_blow_bubbles_follow_them_a_chat_with_will_kimbrough He co-wrote Jimmy Buffett's last song while Buffett was sick. Buffett wanted him to be himself. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Will Kimbrough has spent more than ... Fri, 09 May 2025 12:00:00 +0000 3505 Jason English false full 77 He co-wrote Jimmy Buffett's last song while Buffett was sick. Buffett wanted him to be himself.

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Will Kimbrough has spent more than three decades as the musician other musicians call, anchoring Emmylou Harris's band and producing Grammy-nominated records for Shemekia Copeland. On this episode he sits with Jason English on the Gulf Coast to talk about his 2024 solo album For the Life of Me and the song "Bubbles Up," which he co-wrote for Jimmy Buffett's final record while Buffett was in treatment. He describes the trust that let him stop imitating and start sounding like himself, and why the energy in a live room still matters more than anything digital. He's just as moved by writing songs with veterans and trauma survivors as by sharing a stage with legends. After a lifetime as the man beside the stars, where does a long-time artist place himself?

๐ŸŽต Will Kimbrough's latest: For the Life of Me (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:16 What Keeps Him Coming Back to 30A
2:20 Take a Chance on Live Music
5:20 The Bob Dylan Movie and a Snapshot in Time
8:22 Emmylou Harris and the Grievous Angel
15:41 A Grammy-Nominated Year
20:00 First Songwriting Nod for "Blame It on Eve"
23:42 Jimmy Buffett and the Trust to Be Himself
30:00 The Meaning Behind "Bubbles Up"
31:31 Paul McCartney Hears the Song
33:42 60 Seconds of Curiosity
36:00 Songwriting With Soldiers
40:21 Where He's Going as an Artist
48:35 Live Performance: "Bubbles Up"
54:00 Live Performance: "For the Life of Me"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> From Gypsy Life to Country Pop: A Chat with Twinnie https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/from_gypsy_life_to_country_pop_a_chat_with_twinnie She made a 22-song breakup record. Then she told her co-writers: no more sad songs. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Twinnie grew up in a traveler family in North Y... Thu, 03 Apr 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2542 Jason English false full 75 She made a 22-song breakup record. Then she told her co-writers: no more sad songs.

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Twinnie grew up in a traveler family in North Yorkshire, did musical theater and soap operas, and now writes country songs in Nashville as a self-described outsider. On this episode she tells Jason English why authenticity matters more than genre rules, and why being British in country music is a superpower rather than a hurdle. After pouring a decade-long breakup into her 22-song independent project Something We Used to Say, she's turning the frequency up with the single "Worst Kind of Crush" and a forthcoming Happy Hour EP. She's blunt about the masculine energy it takes to run an independent career and the depth she wants over surface-level noise. What happens when you decide you're done being sad before the sad songs are even old?

๐ŸŽต Twinnie's latest: the single "Worst Kind of Crush," leading her forthcoming Happy Hour EP

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Nashville, England, and North Yorkshire Roots
3:15 The Grammys and Country's Shifting Boundaries
9:29 "Worst Kind of Crush" and the Happy Hour Era
14:07 "Something We Used to Say" and Going Independent
19:28 The Folklore Comparison and Building a World
22:08 "Bad Man" and Why We Date Bad Boys
26:00 Masculine Versus Feminine Energy
29:28 Dating Icks and Old-Fashioned Values
31:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity
40:02 Ted Lasso and Being Yourself

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]]> Play Your Own Blues: A Chat with Jack Barksdale https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/play_your_own_blues_a_chat_with_jack_barksdale At 17 he plays the blues like an old soul, and refuses to fake the wisdom. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) At the 30A Songwriters Festival, 17-year-old Jack Barksd... Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:00:00 +0000 1805 Jason English false full 74 At 17 he plays the blues like an old soul, and refuses to fake the wisdom.

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At the 30A Songwriters Festival, 17-year-old Jack Barksdale talks about playing lead guitar for Guthrie Kennard, the Fort Worth scene that raised him, and the advice that stuck: stop trying to play someone else's blues and play your own. He is signed to Truly Handmade, the label tied to Guy Clark's estate, and was deep into recording the album that became Voices with producer Mike Meadows. He holds up Townes Van Zandt as both a hero and a warning, and explains why he will not write wisdom he has not lived. What does it cost a young artist to stay honest when everyone wants to talk about his age?

๐ŸŽต Jack Barksdale's latest: Voices (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome to Curious Goldfish
0:43 How Jack Got on the Show: Lindi Ortega and Jacob Furr
2:11 Inside the Fort Worth Music Scene
3:47 Guthrie Kennard and Playing Your Own Blues
7:15 Writing Honestly at 17
11:28 Songwriter or Musician?
13:41 Where He Is, Where He Wants to Be
17:08 Townes Van Zandt and the Cautionary Tale
19:00 The Truly Handmade Label and a New Album
21:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity
23:52 Live Performance: "The Willing Kind"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> The 10-Year Fight to Reclaim Her Voice: A Chat with Jessica Willis Fisher https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/the_10-year_fight_to_reclaim_her_voice_a_chat_with_jessica_willis_fisher On camera, a picture-perfect family band. Off camera, a daughter planning her way out. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jessica Willis Fisher sat down with Jason at... Tue, 25 Feb 2025 12:00:00 +0000 3060 Jason English false full 69 On camera, a picture-perfect family band. Off camera, a daughter planning her way out.

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Jessica Willis Fisher sat down with Jason at the 30A Songwriter Festival and described crying on stage mid-song while her family band kept smiling for the cameras. Once the centerpiece of The Willis Clan, known from America's Got Talent and a TLC reality show, she spent years inside what she calls a closed system before reclaiming her voice through her memoir Unspeakable and her solo debut Brand New Day. She talks about the 700 Club interview that still makes her angry to watch, the husband who modeled a way out without forcing it, and a faith she is still sorting through on her own terms. If nearly everything you were raised to believe turned out to be a cage, what do you carry forward?

๐ŸŽต Jessica Willis Fisher's latest: Brand New Day (2022)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome at the 30A Songwriter Festival
3:47 Where the New Music Stands
5:25 Beyond "Brand New Day"
7:47 Where She Is as an Artist Today
8:48 The Memoir "Unspeakable"
13:00 The Gap Between Image and Reality
15:26 The 700 Club Interview
20:13 Faith Then and Now
23:00 Fundamentalism and the Closed System
29:37 Glimmers in the Dark
30:16 Sean and the Trapdoor Out
35:43 Making Meaning From the Pain
39:39 The Power Has Shifted
41:30 60 Seconds of Curiosity
43:30 Live Performance: "Dogwood"
47:15 Live Performance: "Honest"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> Despite Tragedy, California is Always Sweet: A Chat with Chris Stills https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/despite_tragedy_california_is_always_sweet_a_chat_with_chris_stills Days after fire nearly took his home, Chris Stills sang an old song about leaving California. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Chris Stills came to the 30A Songwrit... Sat, 08 Feb 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2058 Jason English false full 68 Days after fire nearly took his home, Chris Stills sang an old song about leaving California.

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Chris Stills came to the 30A Songwriters Festival straight out of the Los Angeles fires, after three sleepless nights watching flames climb toward his Tarzana home. On stage the day before, a song he wrote decades ago about wanting to leave California stopped him cold. Son of Stephen Stills and Vรฉronique Sanson, he talks about the family business, turning 50, and a new album, Hail to the Road. What do you actually need when everything else can burn?

๐ŸŽต Chris Stills's latest: Hail to the Road (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:58 Escaping The LA Fires
10:00 When "Sweet California" Turned Personal
13:00 Helping The Recovery Effort
15:30 Turning 50 And The Second Half
18:22 A Legendary Family: Stephen Stills And Vรฉronique Sanson
21:37 Was Music Always The Plan?
22:00 The Songs That Lit The Spark
24:00 New Album: Hail To The Road
26:14 60 Seconds of Curiosity
29:35 Live Performance: "Sweet California"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> She's Not Done Yet: A Chat with Brontรซ Fall https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/she_s_not_done_yet_a_chat_with_bronte_fall Her father's last three words became the title of the record. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Teri Bracken titled her album with the last thing her father said bef... Thu, 23 Jan 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2007 Jason English false full 67 Her father's last three words became the title of the record.

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Teri Bracken titled her album with the last thing her father said before he died from cancer: I'm not done yet. Recording as Brontรซ Fall, the Nashville songwriter and Berklee graduate talks about building a music life against a family that expected law, medicine, or business, and about the math of streaming, touring, and merch that makes some weeks feel impossible. She walks through "Old Woman," her Bob Dylan-style take on aging in an industry obsessed with youth, and "Tennessee," her first song about finally feeling settled. She also opens up about a two-year mystery illness that nearly ended things before they began. What does it take to keep choosing a life the numbers keep telling you to quit?

๐ŸŽต Brontรซ Fall's latest: Not Done Yet (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:46 Chicago Holidays and Family Traditions
2:43 John O'Brien and the Album's Title
5:00 "Old Woman" and a Road-Trip Idea
6:50 Berklee, Friction, and Following the Dream
8:07 The Business of Music and "Worth the Money"
11:00 Streaming, Touring, and Merch
13:02 Aging in the Industry
14:48 The Brontรซ Sisters and the Name
16:58 Where She Is as an Artist
18:44 Nashville and the Song "Tennessee"
23:15 What the Album Taught Her
24:14 A Mystery Illness and Resilience
28:26 60 Seconds of Curiosity
30:09 Live Performance: "Old Woman"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Atlanta Artist Finding Her Groove: A Chat with Rissa Vibes https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/atlanta_artist_finding_her_groove_a_chat_with_rissa_vibes She was trapping for real. Now she writes trap music to help people heal. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Rissa Vibes met host Jason English at the Ari Retreat in ... Sun, 12 Jan 2025 12:00:00 +0000 1444 Jason English false full 65 She was trapping for real. Now she writes trap music to help people heal.

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Rissa Vibes met host Jason English at the Ari Retreat in Nashville, fresh off two photo shoots and two new songs in a single Tuesday. The Michigan native turned Atlanta artist talks about Trap Alchemist and what she calls trap formation: the heavy 808s and the hype, minus the toxic messages. She is fourteen years clean, and she traces her sound back to a rock bottom she does not flinch from naming. What does it mean to make a whole genre feel good to sing out loud?

๐ŸŽต Rissa Vibes's latest: Trap Alchemist (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome and the Ari Retreat in Nashville
1:01 First Time in the Music City
2:58 Four Years Old and Already Singing
3:32 The Vocalists Who Shaped Her
3:53 Becoming a Trap Alchemist
5:33 Trap Meets Affirmation
6:00 Why Atlanta Called Her Home
9:14 The Gifts She Felt at Seven
12:17 Rock Bottom and the Road Back
15:24 Singing for the Newly Sober
16:25 Festival Stages and What Comes Next
17:51 60 Seconds of Curiosity
19:51 The Ted Lasso Effect
22:53 Honor Your Authenticity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Navigating Love & Music: A Chat with Lake & Lyndale https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/navigating_love_music_a_chat_with_lake_lyndale She learned to sing a whole song backward, in one take, on camera. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jon and Channing Krentz are married, share a band, and are seven... Thu, 09 Jan 2025 12:00:00 +0000 2820 Jason English false full 64 She learned to sing a whole song backward, in one take, on camera.

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Jon and Channing Krentz are married, share a band, and are seven years removed from the Minnesota move that brought Lake & Lyndale to Nashville. They talk about the radical honesty of working with a spouse, why their single "Man Upstairs" tucks a question about faith inside a story about thin apartment walls, and the video where Channing sings "There's a Weight" entirely in reverse. With a new EP planned for 2026, they keep their eyes on the small boxes instead of the Grammy-sized ones. What does it take to keep choosing the work, and each other, after twelve years?

๐ŸŽต Lake & Lyndale's latest single: "Man Upstairs" (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:45 Meet Jon and Channing Krentz
1:30 What They Appreciate Most About Each Other
5:20 Marriage, Work, and How They Met
9:02 The Move From Minnesota to Nashville
11:27 The Surprise of Nashville's Community
13:57 Corporate Gigs and Funding the Music
15:49 The Singles Strategy
18:36 "Man Upstairs" and the Double Entendre
21:51 Faith, Religion, and Staying Curious
29:37 "The Sequel"
30:55 Touring Plans and Favorite Nashville Venues
32:22 Where They Are, Where They Want to Be
37:19 The Backward-Singing Video and Making Content
43:42 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> Reclaiming Her Masters, Reclaiming Herself: A Chat with Earl https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/reclaiming_her_masters_reclaiming_herself_a_chat_with_earl Twenty years in, five labels deep, and one comeback Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Earl (born Kate Earl) sat down with Jason at the ARI Retreat in Nashville, twen... Mon, 06 Jan 2025 12:00:00 +0000 1592 Jason English false full 63 Twenty years in, five labels deep, and one comeback

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Earl (born Kate Earl) sat down with Jason at the ARI Retreat in Nashville, twenty years and five record deals into a career she talks about in chapters and incarnations. She is candid about what the major-label machine cost her, why she left the country to follow her own royalties, and the strange grace of a Britney Spears post that pushed "All That Glitters" into the billions of streams. Now settled in the Blue Ridge Mountains and re-recording her own masters, she is running the whole operation herself for the first time. What does making it even mean once you stop asking permission?

๐ŸŽต Earl's latest: Tongue Tied (2017)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome From the ARI Retreat in Nashville
1:13 Coming In as a Swiss Army Knife
4:09 The Thin Line Between Making It and Not
6:18 Twenty Years In: The Cost of the Machine
9:33 When the Deal Wanted Her Family
11:00 England, Legal Bills, and a Double Life
14:16 The Responsibility of the Gift
16:26 The Asheville Home and the Song That Paid for It
21:32 Reclaiming the Master
23:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Mississippi Mystery: A Chat with Charlie Mars https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/mississippi_mystery_a_chat_with_charlie_mars His family has been in one Mississippi town for 150 years. His whole life is the road. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Charlie Mars walks on stage without a setlis... Thu, 02 Jan 2025 14:00:00 +0000 1677 Jason English false full 62 His family has been in one Mississippi town for 150 years. His whole life is the road.

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Charlie Mars walks on stage without a setlist, reading the room and pulling from ten albums until something clicks. Back home in the hill country of North Mississippi, where he can see twenty miles from his back porch and his people have lived for a century and a half, he talks with Jason about place, the kind of love he is still learning to protect, and why he thinks he was born heartbroken. He describes the transcendent moment of writing a song like "Nothing But the Rain" as a feeling he spends his whole life trying to return to. His latest record, Times Have Changed, is a nod to the restless kid he used to be and the simple pleasures he is grateful for now. What does an independent troubadour ten albums deep still chase when that moment cannot be summoned?

๐ŸŽต Charlie Mars' latest: Times Have Changed (2023)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome Back to Atlanta
1:21 Four Nights of Shows and Life on the Road
2:34 No Setlist, Reading the Room
4:44 Christmas in Laurel, Mississippi
7:21 Turning Fifty
9:50 Place, Home, and Mississippi Roots
13:40 Love and Staying in the Mystery
16:14 Ten Albums and the Independent Road
17:53 Born Heartbroken
19:13 The Transcendent Moment in Songwriting
21:52 Where He Is as an Artist
24:36 60 Seconds of Curiosity
25:33 "Times Have Changed"

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]]> Not Afraid of Love: A Chat with Tim Easton https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/not_afraid_of_love_a_chat_with_tim_easton He once busked Paris with a young Beck. The harder work came later: both feet in recovery. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Tim Easton has spent decades as a travel... Fri, 27 Dec 2024 12:00:00 +0000 2831 Jason English false full 61 He once busked Paris with a young Beck. The harder work came later: both feet in recovery.

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Tim Easton has spent decades as a traveling songwriter, from busking the steps of Sacre-Coeur alongside a young, focused Beck to a solo catalog built on the road. On this episode he talks with Jason English about his 2024 album Find Your Way and the difference between being sober curious and putting both feet in recovery. He's honest about the years he let down labels and managers in a haze, and about how he pays the mortgage now through a Patreon page and song placements rather than the old machinery. He says he'd take a thirty-minute conversation with his daughter over a standing ovation. What changes when you finally stop fighting your own patterns?

๐ŸŽต Tim Easton's latest: Find Your Way (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:09 Irish House Guests and Improvised Music
3:17 Why Americana Fest Still Matters
5:51 "Find Your Way" and Both Feet in Recovery
10:32 Asking for Help and Hitting Bottom
14:25 "Everything You're Afraid Of"
20:36 Radical Honesty and Working Local
23:16 Politics and Reaching Across Division
25:47 Busking With Beck in Paris
31:54 The Commerce Problem and Twelve Managers
35:00 Patreon, Superfans, and the Mortgage
37:00 Satisfaction and Falling in Love Again
40:42 60 Seconds of Curiosity
43:32 Live Performance: "Everything You're Afraid Of"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> An Aviation & Music Journey, from Tokyo to Nashville: A Chat with Joshua Motohashi https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/an_aviation_music_journey_from_tokyo_to_nashville_a_chat_with_joshua_motohashi He played pedal steel at the Opry, then traded it to fly jets for Reba and Blake Shelton. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Joshua Motohashi grew up in Tokyo learnin... Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:00:00 +0000 2968 Jason English false full 59 He played pedal steel at the Opry, then traded it to fly jets for Reba and Blake Shelton.

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Joshua Motohashi grew up in Tokyo learning piano and violin by ear, until a six-day Grateful Dead run in Oakland on New Year's 1982 rearranged his whole life. He moved to Nashville with a student-model steel guitar, learned 250 country songs by copy, and found mentors in Buddy Emmons and Speedy West before playing the Ryman and the Opry behind Radney Foster and Lorrie Morgan. He pressed that chapter onto a solo record, Self Portrait, then walked away from music to chase a childhood dream of flying, eventually piloting private jets for Reba McEntire, Blake Shelton, and Kelly Clarkson. He calls a surprise return to the Opry stage the perfect way to end a career. What does it take to put down the thing you fought so hard for and call it finished?

๐ŸŽต Joshua's solo album: Self Portrait

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 โ†’ Welcome
1:00 โ†’ Two Lives: Pedal Steel and the Cockpit
4:08 โ†’ Growing Up in Tokyo, Learning by Ear
7:37 โ†’ The Grateful Dead Call in Oakland
10:50 โ†’ Becoming a Pedal Steel Player
17:47 โ†’ Steel Guitar Shows and Speedy West
22:36 โ†’ The Working Visa Gamble
23:55 โ†’ The Nashville Entry Point
26:42 โ†’ We're All Human Beings
29:04 โ†’ Playing the Ryman and the Opry
31:06 โ†’ Self Portrait and the Nursing Home Band
33:36 โ†’ A Childhood Dream of Flying
36:00 โ†’ Flying for Country Royalty
42:15 โ†’ The Last Surprise at the Opry
47:56 โ†’ 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> She Didn't Want Anyone to Hear the Record: A Chat with Amy Speace https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/she_didn_t_want_anyone_to_hear_the_record_a_chat_with_amy_speace A folk singer's country experiment about 1976 turned into a record about everything that broke Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Amy Speace started writing a country... Mon, 09 Dec 2024 13:00:00 +0000 3024 Jason English false full 58 A folk singer's country experiment about 1976 turned into a record about everything that broke

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Amy Speace started writing a country song as an exercise, all Bicentennial nostalgia and memories of Nixon, Carter, and Ford, and it turned into the title track of The American Dream. A former Shakespearean actress discovered by Judy Collins, she opens up about the divorce that arrived during COVID, the rage underneath 11 years of sobriety, firing the God of her Catholic childhood, and becoming a mom to her son Huck at 50. She's unflinching about owning her mess and writing the record to heal herself. What does the American dream actually mean to someone who built a life off the usual path?

๐ŸŽต Amy Speace's latest: The American Dream (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
1:45 Why "The American Dream" Now
4:16 Her American Dream in 1976
7:06 Asking Six-Year-Old Huck
13:35 Believing in Love After Divorce
16:30 Comparing "Tucson" and "The American Dream"
20:25 "I Break Things" and a Marriage Breaking
24:34 Rage, Drinking, and 11 Years Sober
25:37 A Catholic Childhood and "Firing God"
30:51 Becoming a Mom at 50
35:23 The Menopausal Mommy Blog
45:18 Where She Is as an Artist
47:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Americana Star is Solo But Not Alone: A Chat with Maya De Vitry https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/americana_star_is_solo_but_not_alone_a_chat_with_maya_de_vitry A solo career that's anything but solo, built between songs and service jobs Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Maya De Vitry left The Stray Birds for a solo career she insists is... Fri, 06 Dec 2024 14:00:00 +0000 3242 Jason English false full 42 A solo career that's anything but solo, built between songs and service jobs

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Maya De Vitry left The Stray Birds for a solo career she insists is deeply collaborative. She is frank about the economics of it, the service shifts and producing work that fund the art, and how COVID reshaped her creativity. She talks about recording "The Only Moment" and what rest and community mean to her now, and she closes with "Ribbon" and "Working Man." What does an honest music career actually look like when you add up the hours?

๐ŸŽต Maya De Vitry's latest: The Only Moment (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Collaborative Solo Journey
2:39 Meeting Maya in Nashville
5:21 The Reality of Being a Musician
7:49 Musical Family and Career Decisions
13:41 The Stray Birds and Americana
17:59 COVID's Impact on Creativity
20:36 Recording "The Only Moment"
27:23 Touring Challenges
37:20 From Band to Solo
44:36 60 Seconds of Curiosity
49:23 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with The Belgian Blue: Austrian Band's Americana Roots Run Deep https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_the_belgian_blue_austrian_band_s_americana_roots_run_deep An Austrian-Irish band whose Americana roots run deeper than the map suggests Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) The Belgian Blue formed out of Ireland, Austria, and a reunion in ... Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:00:00 +0000 3525 Jason English false full 38 An Austrian-Irish band whose Americana roots run deeper than the map suggests

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The Belgian Blue formed out of Ireland, Austria, and a reunion in Montana, and somehow the Americana in their sound feels earned. Padraig McMahon, Ian Strawn, and Moritz Colin Bauer talk about how the band came together, what streaming does to independent artists, and the story behind "The Bare Minimum." How does American roots music end up sounding most at home in voices from across the ocean?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:39 Streaming, a Double-Edged Sword
2:13 Meet The Belgian Blue
3:51 Reuniting in Montana
7:36 The Origin of the Band
16:10 Influences and Genre
27:35 The Songwriting Process
31:00 The Story of "The Bare Minimum"
42:17 Intention and Curiosity
53:07 Closing Thoughts

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with TOW'rs: Duo Celebrating 10 Years of Music and Transformation with "Versions" https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_tow_rs_duo_celebrating_10_years_of_music_and_transformation_with_versions A married duo re-recording ten years of songs to strip out the fear they were written in Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Kyle and Gretta Miller of TOW'rs mark ten years togethe... Sat, 30 Nov 2024 14:00:00 +0000 3528 Jason English false full 31 A married duo re-recording ten years of songs to strip out the fear they were written in

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Kyle and Gretta Miller of TOW'rs mark ten years together with "Versions," an album that revisits their own catalog. They talk about how their sound and their faith have both changed, moving from certainty toward something more open, and how parenthood reshaped the writing. It is a real conversation about a marriage and a band evolving at the same time. What do you keep, and what do you rewrite, when you look back at who you used to be?

๐ŸŽต TOW'rs' latest: Versions (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
2:51 Discovering TOW'rs
4:38 Kyle and Gretta's Pros and Cons
10:04 The Evolution of the Sound
18:38 Faith and Personal Growth
29:28 Embracing Uncertainty
37:15 The Evolution of Songwriting
46:33 Parenthood and Music
54:42 The New Album
56:18 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Troubadour Settling Down in Music City: A Chat with Dean Harlem https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/troubadour_settling_down_in_music_city_a_chat_with_dean_harlem He hitchhiked to Nashville at eighteen to be the next Bob Dylan. It took ten more years to stay. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Dean Harlem hitchhiked from New Je... Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:00:00 +0000 1721 Jason English false full 55 He hitchhiked to Nashville at eighteen to be the next Bob Dylan. It took ten more years to stay.

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Dean Harlem hitchhiked from New Jersey to Nashville at eighteen, certain someone would hand him a record deal. Instead he spent a decade busking everywhere from San Francisco to Ireland before moving back to stay. Now he plays original songs at Chief's on Broadway, keeps bees on an acre and a half, and traces his path across the Northeast on his EP Red Oak Hill. He talks about being born in Ukraine, the pull of Irish storytelling, and a definition of success measured in one filled stadium section a night. What does it cost to keep choosing the life you chose?

๐ŸŽต Dean Harlem's latest: Red Oak Hill (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Meeting Dean Through Matt and Jacob
2:00 The Dream of Filling One Section a Night
3:00 A Dollar in the Tip Jar in San Francisco
5:00 Hitchhiking to Nashville and the Long Road Back
6:15 Why Nashville Still Matters
7:00 An Original Songs Residency at Chief's on Broadway
8:40 Touring and Busking in Ireland
12:00 Born in Ukraine, a Subconscious Home in Europe
13:28 The Red Oak Hill EP
14:30 Heroes and the Life He Wants
16:09 Dean's Tennessee Honey
17:35 What the Bees Teach About Design
21:14 On the Road With the Jaybirds
22:24 60 Seconds of Curiosity
24:11 Live Performance: "Rock Bottom"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with John Driskell Hopkins: Zac Brown Band Founding Member's Courageous Battle with ALS https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_john_driskell_hopkins_zac_brown_band_founding_member_s_courageous_battle_with_als A Zac Brown Band founder on living, and fighting, with ALS Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) John Driskell Hopkins helped found the Zac Brown Band, and he is facing ALS with a cl... Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:00:00 +0000 1639 Jason English true full 53 A Zac Brown Band founder on living, and fighting, with ALS

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John Driskell Hopkins helped found the Zac Brown Band, and he is facing ALS with a clarity that is hard to look away from. Recorded live at Rock 'n Taco in Roswell, he talks about the early grind, the breakthrough years, his diagnosis, and the Hop on a Cure foundation he started to fight the disease. He is honest about the hard parts and stubbornly hopeful. What does it look like to keep showing up when the clock is loud?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:48 Understanding ALS
2:53 Meet John Driskell Hopkins
3:38 Early Career and Meeting Zac Brown
11:44 The Grind and the Breakthrough
14:11 Songwriting and Insights
20:14 Living with ALS
23:54 Hop on a Cure
27:59 Closing Thoughts

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Cat Cafes & Growing Up Slow: A Chat With Rachel McIntyre Smith https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/cat_cafes_growing_up_slow_a_chat_with_rachel_mcintyre_smith No following, no venues, so she booked her first tour playing for shelter cats. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Rachel McIntyre Smith passed out cold when her keyb... Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:00:00 +0000 2058 Jason English false full 52 No following, no venues, so she booked her first tour playing for shelter cats.

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Rachel McIntyre Smith passed out cold when her keyboard collapsed on her hand at soundcheck, then got up and played the show anyway. The East Tennessee native sits down with Jason at AmericanaFest to talk about bypassing the industry's front door with a ukulele and a circuit of cat cafes, funding her music with a full-time multimedia day job, and her second EP, Honeysuckle Friend. Her song "Grow Up Slow" pushes back on the pressure to have life figured out before thirty. What happens when you stop measuring yourself against everyone else's timeline?

๐ŸŽต Rachel McIntyre Smith's latest: Honeysuckle Friend (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:45 Meeting at AmericanaFest in Nashville
1:32 What Tennessee Does Best
2:47 Building a Dream AmericanaFest Lineup
3:31 How a Collapsing Keyboard Won Over Gabe Lee
5:32 Life in East Nashville
7:10 The Day Job and the Leap
8:42 Small-Town Roots and Classical Piano
10:55 The Cat Cafe Circuit
13:13 Finding a Producer and Moving to Nashville
14:55 The Honeysuckle Friend EP
16:31 "Grow Up Slow" and the 29-Year-Old Deadline
19:19 The Biggest Challenge
21:42 "Parentheses" and What Goes Unsaid
22:30 "Memories in the Middle"
23:47 60 Seconds of Curiosity
25:54 The Honeysuckle Friend Sessions
28:00 Live Performance: "Parentheses" and "Grow Up Slow"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> More Than an Influencer: A Chat with Erin Gibney https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/more_than_an_influencer_a_chat_with_erin_gibney She has the following most musicians chase. She would rather you listen to the songs. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Erin Gibney moved from Connecticut to Nashvil... Fri, 08 Nov 2024 00:00:00 +0000 1655 Jason English false full 50 She has the following most musicians chase. She would rather you listen to the songs.

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Erin Gibney moved from Connecticut to Nashville at eighteen to attend Belmont, and spent the next seven years learning when to speak up. She talks with Jason English about writing "Kryptonite" after kissing a guy best friend, the five-year relationship behind "Exit Signs," and why she releases her music one single at a time so no song gets lost. She has the kind of social following most artists would trade a lot for, and she has spent the last year deciding what she actually wants to do with it. What happens when the thing you are good at online is the same thing you are trying to be taken seriously for offstage?

๐ŸŽต Erin Gibney's latest single: "Kryptonite" (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS

0:00 Introduction
0:52 Kissing A Coworker Or A Friend
2:43 Green Flags And Red Flags
4:27 Can You Escape The Friend Zone?
6:12 From Connecticut To Belmont
7:55 Building A Platform On Real Life
9:40 Learning To Say What She Thinks
12:30 "Kryptonite" And The Guy Best Friend
14:51 "Exit Signs" And The Five-Year Relationship
15:26 "By June" And The Myth Of A Healing Timeline
17:05 Brand Deals And Influencer Management
18:23 Touring, Co-Writes, And The Bluebird
20:00 60 Seconds Of Curiosity
23:52 Live Performance: "Not Something I've Told My Friends"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> The Life In Between: A Chat with Julian Taylor https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/the_life_in_between_a_chat_with_julian_taylor Thirty years in, Julian Taylor says the biggest obstacle he has ever faced is himself. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Julian Taylor sat down with Jason English in... Fri, 01 Nov 2024 12:00:00 +0000 2209 Jason English false full 49 Thirty years in, Julian Taylor says the biggest obstacle he has ever faced is himself.

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Julian Taylor sat down with Jason English in Nashville during Americana Fest, a week before his new album Pathways arrived. A Toronto songwriter of Black and Indigenous heritage, he has spent thirty years moving from the rock of Staggered Crossing to the soul and Americana of The Ridge and Beyond the Reservoir. He talks about writing "Sixth Line Road" for hockey pioneer Herb Carnegie, the prejudice he has met in the industry, and why he keeps loosening his grip on what success is supposed to look like. What does a thirty-year career teach you about the voice in your own head?

๐ŸŽต Julian Taylor's latest: Pathways (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 โ†’ Welcome
1:21 โ†’ Americana Fest and the Pull of Music City
3:00 โ†’ Building Pathways and the Songwriting Process
5:00 โ†’ Staying Connected to Yourself and the Room
8:00 โ†’ Intentionally Confused: Measuring Success After 30 Years
12:00 โ†’ Albums as Snapshots in Time
14:07 โ†’ 60 Seconds of Curiosity
16:30 โ†’ The Paralympic Race and Glimpses of Hope
19:50 โ†’ Inside Pathways: Love, Justice, and Resilience
23:43 โ†’ "Love Letters" and the Lost Art of the Letter
24:50 โ†’ "Sixth Line Road" and the Story of Herb Carnegie
27:00 โ†’ Facing Prejudice in the Music Industry
30:02 โ†’ "Weighing Down" and Being Your Own Obstacle
32:19 โ†’ Live Performance: "As We Grow"

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]]> Finding Grace in the Gritty & the Grand: A Chat with Phil Madeira https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/finding_grace_in_the_gritty_the_grand_a_chat_with_phil_madeira He built a fake album cover in 1974. Decades later, he'd worked with almost everyone he listed on it. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Phil Madeira has spent thirty... Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:00:00 +0000 3753 Jason English false full 48 He built a fake album cover in 1974. Decades later, he'd worked with almost everyone he listed on it.

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Phil Madeira has spent thirty years as the quiet engine inside Emmylou Harris's band and a long list of Nashville's most soulful records. He sits down with Jason to trace the road from his 1994 stint in Rich Mullins's Ragamuffin Band to a faith he now describes as a continuum rather than a verdict. Along the way he talks about the grandmother whose constant disapproval may have made him an artist, the records he wrote to get through heartbreak, and the Mercyland collection he calls his life's work. He ends with a live take on "Midnight Mass," co-written with Sandra McCracken. What does it look like to feel at the top of your game at 72 and still be hungry to keep going?

๐ŸŽต Phil's latest: A Mercyland Christmas (2023)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:43 Seeing the Ragamuffin Band in 1994
1:48 How an Accordion Led to Emmylou Harris
3:00 Why "Yes" Became His Mantra
6:00 Leaving the Christian Music World
10:00 God on the Rocks: Faith as a Continuum
14:00 Believing and Doubting at the Same Time
28:00 The Grandmother Who Shaped Him
30:00 Writing Through Loss and Anger
37:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity
39:00 At the Top of His Game at 72
46:00 The 1974 Record Cover That Came True
50:00 Mercyland and the Work of Goodwill
57:00 Live Performance: "Midnight Mass"

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]]> Singing For The Ones Who Can't: A Chat with Omer Netzer https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/singing_for_the_ones_who_can_t_a_chat_with_omer_netzer A combat medic who lost three friends, now chasing country music in Nashville. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Omer Netzer left Israel for Nashville on what was su... Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:00:00 +0000 2237 Jason English false full 47 A combat medic who lost three friends, now chasing country music in Nashville.

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Omer Netzer left Israel for Nashville on what was supposed to be a three-week trip. Seven months later he is still here, knocking on doors at CMA and Whiskey Jam, introducing himself with a guitar and a story most people in country music have never heard. A combat medic who went back to serve after October 7th, he now writes songs he says are less about trucks and more about survival, faith, and the friends he lost. His first US single, "God Works in Mysterious Ways," is the one he says saved his life. What does a musician owe the people who can no longer speak for themselves?

๐ŸŽต Omer Netzer's latest single: "God Works in Mysterious Ways" (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
1:00 Seven Months in Nashville
2:04 Where the Confidence Comes From
3:20 The Only Israeli-Born Country Singer
4:00 Growing Up in Nahariya
5:00 From Pop Stages Back to His Roots
6:00 Bon Jovi's Manager and the Memphis Blues
9:00 Combat Medic at Eighteen
11:00 Going Back After October 7th
14:00 Hustling Into CMA and Whiskey Jam
19:19 "If Whiskey Was a Friend"
20:00 "God Works in Mysterious Ways"
24:00 Dreaming Big and the Music Business
25:33 60 Seconds of Curiosity
31:36 Live Performance: "Save My Soul"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> "I'm Not An Angry Person": A Chat with Humbird https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/i_m_not_an_angry_person_a_chat_with_humbird An album written from anger, by an artist who calls anger a sign of care Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Humbird, the project of Minnesota's Siri Undlin, made Righ... Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2323 Jason English false full 46 An album written from anger, by an artist who calls anger a sign of care

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Humbird, the project of Minnesota's Siri Undlin, made Right On out of anger, and she's quick to call that a sign of care rather than something to apologize for. A preacher's kid raised in a progressive Lutheran community, she talks about a louder, grittier record shaped by George Floyd's murder and her own Minneapolis neighborhood, the slow grind of real change, and why she holds space for people carrying religious trauma. She gets into a decade of DIY touring, an obsession with folklore and storytelling, and why she'd rather cover Billy Joel than reinvent the wheel. What happens when the anger underneath a record turns out to be a form of love?

๐ŸŽต Humbird's latest: Right On (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold Open
1:00 Touring "Right On"
2:00 A Grittier, Louder Record
3:00 Anger as Care
4:00 George Floyd, Minneapolis & Direct Lyrics
9:30 DIY Years & the Nashville Biker Bar
13:00 Preacher's Kid: Mom the Pastor
15:30 Holding Space for Religious Trauma
19:45 60 Seconds of Curiosity
22:30 Storytelling, Fairy Tales & Folklore
25:30 Covering the Men, and Billy Joel
28:30 Where the Band Is Now
31:30 The Themes of "Right On"
33:00 The Song Vault & Co-Writing "Fast Food"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Lauren Lucas: Balancing Motherhood and Music https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_lauren_lucas_balancing_motherhood_and_music A Tony nomination, a Belmont classroom, and motherhood: a working songwriter's many lives Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Lauren Lucas has done a lot of music's jobs: performer... Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:00:00 +0000 4085 Jason English false full 30 A Tony nomination, a Belmont classroom, and motherhood: a working songwriter's many lives

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Lauren Lucas has done a lot of music's jobs: performer, songwriter, teacher, podcaster, with releases going back to 2004 and a Tony nomination along the way. She talks about playing the Bluebird, teaching songwriting at Belmont, writing the song "Motherlode," and keeping a marriage and a career running at once. She makes a real case that anyone can write a song, and she closes with "Motherlode." How do you keep making your own work while teaching everyone else to make theirs?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:41 Early Career and First Releases
2:01 Playing the Bluebird Cafe
6:39 A Diverse Career
12:17 Balancing Motherhood and Music
19:03 The Story of "Motherlode"
30:39 Why Nashville Matters
34:45 Teaching at Belmont
39:29 The Truth in Country Music
57:16 The Co-Writing Process
1:03:49 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Lindi Ortega: She's Back After a Series of Challenges https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_lindi_ortega_she_s_back_after_a_series_of_challenges Faulty in-ear monitors nearly ended her voice, and this is how she found it again Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Lindi Ortega stepped away from performing after faulty in-ear ... Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:00:00 +0000 1796 Jason English false full Faulty in-ear monitors nearly ended her voice, and this is how she found it again

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Lindi Ortega stepped away from performing after faulty in-ear monitors wrecked her voice and her nerves. She talks about the hiatus, the divorce and losses that came with it, and the album "From the Ether" that pulled her back, a record that leaves her traditional country roots for something more personal. She relaunched at AmericanaFest under a new label, and she closes with a performance. What brings an artist back after the thing she does best stops feeling safe?

๐ŸŽต Lindi Ortega's latest: From the Ether (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Struggles and Comeback
2:33 Vocal Challenges and Anxiety
3:21 From Painting Houses to New Music
3:53 AmericanaFest and the New Album
5:09 Rediscovering Confidence
9:54 Personal Losses and Resilience
10:30 Ghosts and New Music
12:01 Dating Post-Divorce
13:34 The Creative Process
25:27 Live Performance

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]]> Chasing Her Own Unholy Ghost: A Chat with Taydee Marie https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/chasing_her_own_unholy_ghost_a_chat_with_taydee_marie She hid in a closet with a keyboard as a kid. Now she sings four nights a week on Broadway. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Taydee Marie grew up moving almost ever... Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:00:00 +0000 1799 Jason English false full 45 She hid in a closet with a keyboard as a kid. Now she sings four nights a week on Broadway.

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Taydee Marie grew up moving almost every year, spending recess with praying mantises and evenings with a keyboard she kept hidden in her closet. Now she works Nashville's Lower Broadway four nights a week, carrying a tip bucket between cover sets while she waits for her band to learn her originals. She talks with Jason English about turning 27, the year she says she died to herself and started living for God, and about a warning song called "Unholy Ghost" built on Pharisees and whitewashed tombs. Her latest single "tipsy after two" plays lighter, but the same restlessness runs underneath it. What happens when the thing that isolated you as a kid becomes the thing that finally connects you to strangers?

๐ŸŽต Taydee Marie's latest: "tipsy after two" (2025)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome and Meeting Taydee Marie
2:13 Dating Icks, Red Flags, and the Song That Scared a Guy Away
5:45 Chasing Inspiration for New Songs
6:37 The Meaning Behind "Unholy Ghost"
7:44 Growing Up in the Bible Belt
9:17 Turning 27 and Rededicating Her Faith
10:45 Broadway Bars and Working Originals Into the Set
12:05 The Story Behind "Redneck Crazy"
14:38 Where She Is as an Artist and Where She Wants to Be
15:56 Co-Writes and Learning 22 Songs in a Week
17:14 ADHD, Dyslexia, and Growing Up Different
20:03 60 Seconds of Curiosity
21:02 Boxed In as a Christian Artist
23:05 Favorite Worship Songs
24:00 Live Performance: "Tipsy After Two"
26:45 Live Performance: "Unholy Ghost"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Andy Gullahorn: Faith & Family Are His Foundation https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_andy_gullahorn_faith_family_are_his_foundation A songwriter who finds the funny and the painful in the same line Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Andy Gullahorn writes songs that sit in life's complexity, the parts that aren... Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:00:00 +0000 4605 Jason English false full A songwriter who finds the funny and the painful in the same line

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Andy Gullahorn writes songs that sit in life's complexity, the parts that aren't black and white. He talks about a Christian upbringing he's still sorting through, the humor he keeps close even on heavy material, and the vulnerability behind a song like "Different Now." Compassion and rehumanizing people you disagree with run all the way through. How do you write something both funny and true about the hardest parts of being a person?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Embracing Complexity
2:30 Meet Andy Gullahorn
3:31 Soccer and Fatherhood
7:18 Current Projects
11:21 Compassion and Rehumanizing
20:32 The Church and Growth
27:54 The Song "Different Now"
39:14 The Good Kid Syndrome
42:11 Humor and Depth in Songwriting
50:27 Vulnerability in Songwriting
1:07:02 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Letting Go of the Outcome: A Chat with Lucy Isabel https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/letting_go_of_the_outcome_a_chat_with_lucy_isabel Ten years sober, a new baby, a father lost, and an album about letting go of control. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Lucy Isabel wrote most of All the Light while... Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:00:00 +0000 1706 Jason English false full 44 Ten years sober, a new baby, a father lost, and an album about letting go of control.

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Lucy Isabel wrote most of All the Light while she was recording it, in a stretch where she lost her father and welcomed a second daughter within months of each other. A Yale drama graduate who traded the New York theater scene for the Nashville songwriting community, she sits down with Jason to talk about the constant mental load of motherhood, getting sober at 22, and why she stopped waiting for the muse to show up before writing. The album's title comes from a line in "Where It Lies": sometimes the hardest things to see are the ones sitting right in front of us. Underneath all of it is a question she keeps circling back to: how much of a life are we actually meant to control?

๐ŸŽต Lucy Isabel's latest: All the Light (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:44 Always Mom Things
1:14 From Musical Theater to Music
2:27 Leaving New York for Nashville
3:19 The Brandi Carlile Conversion
6:26 Activism and the Queer Community in the South
9:19 The New Album: All the Light
10:42 What "The Light" Means
11:35 Remembering Her Father, Joseph
14:00 Letting Go and Letting God
15:01 Writing Without Waiting for the Muse
17:01 Is There a Formula?
18:11 Ten Years Sober
22:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity
24:24 Live Performance: "My Memory"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Jennifer Knapp: Songwriter Returns to Kansas after 25 Years https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_jennifer_knapp_songwriter_returns_to_kansas_after_25_years A Christian-music star who came out, walked away, and came back to the songs on her own terms Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jennifer Knapp built a career in contemporary Chri... Wed, 09 Oct 2024 16:30:00 +0000 4785 Jason English false full 28 A Christian-music star who came out, walked away, and came back to the songs on her own terms

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Jennifer Knapp built a career in contemporary Christian music in the late '90s, then came out as a lesbian and stepped away from that world. She talks about her Kansas roots, the project "Kansas 25" marking 25 years since her debut, and the long work of holding faith and identity together. She has spent years advocating for LGBTQ people inside religious spaces, and she closes with "Diamond in the Rough." What does it take to come home to your own songs after the world tells you to choose?

๐ŸŽต Jennifer Knapp's latest: Kansas 25 (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Resistance and Success
1:45 The Larry King Live Appearance
3:02 From Kansas to Stardom
7:20 Kansas 25
15:39 Faith and Identity
29:30 Songwriting and Spirit
45:43 The Conditionality of Love
54:04 Musical Rediscovery
1:01:57 Advocacy in Faith Communities
1:12:21 The Journey of Self-Acceptance
1:14:45 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Tribute to Her Daddy: A Chat with Shawna Thompson https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_tribute_to_her_daddy_a_chat_with_shawna_thompson Half of Thompson Square waited almost 30 years to make the country record she always wanted. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Shawna Thompson sat down at Americana ... Tue, 08 Oct 2024 12:00:00 +0000 1141 Jason English false full 43 Half of Thompson Square waited almost 30 years to make the country record she always wanted.

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Shawna Thompson sat down at Americana Fest a week after releasing Lean On Neon, the traditional honky tonk record she first wanted to make when she moved to Nashville in 1996. For a decade she was half of Thompson Square. This solo debut is a tribute to her late father, built from songs they played together and from collaborations with heroes like Vince Gill and Ricky Skaggs. She talks about faith and the criticism that came with playing honky tonks young, a 25-year marriage she measures in "dog years," and a hard recovery from back surgery. The conversation keeps circling one question: what makes a person wait almost 30 years for the thing they wanted most, and what changes when they finally do it?

๐ŸŽต Shawna Thompson's latest: Lean On Neon (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:54 The Album Is Finally Out
1:34 Introducing Shawna Thompson
2:34 A Tribute To Her Father
3:52 Older, Wiser, More Country
5:51 Faith, Honky Tonks, And A Small Town Wreck
8:15 The Dream Collaborators
10:24 What Makes A Marriage And A Band Work
11:49 Dog Years And A Hard Recovery
12:33 The Future Of Thompson Square
13:11 60 Seconds of Curiosity
15:11 Getting The Word Out
15:47 Live Performance: "Burn It Down"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Vandy Grad Anchors Down in Nashville: A Chat with Noah Silver https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/vandy_grad_anchors_down_in_nashville_a_chat_with_noah_silver He traded a Vanderbilt economics degree for midnight cover sets on Broadway. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jason first heard Noah Silver at The Row in Nashville,... Tue, 01 Oct 2024 12:00:00 +0000 1900 Jason English false full 41 He traded a Vanderbilt economics degree for midnight cover sets on Broadway.

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Jason first heard Noah Silver at The Row in Nashville, working through a set of covers, and tipped him to play an original. That small request opened a bigger conversation. Silver grew up in Arizona, came to Nashville for Vanderbilt, finished an economics degree, and then walked away from the safe path to gig a dozen times a week. He talks about his debut EP Kaleidoscope, a chance meeting with Hall of Fame songwriter Kent Blazy at Radnor Lake that led to a night at the Bluebird, and the piano ballad he wrote for his grandfather. What keeps a 23-year-old chasing this when his college friends are already cashing bigger checks?

๐ŸŽต Noah Silver's latest: Kaleidoscope (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:43 A Tip for an Original at The Row
2:16 Going Full-Time After Vanderbilt
3:30 Family Support for the Dream
4:35 How Many Gigs a Week
5:25 The Grind of Playing Covers
7:25 Why Nashville Means Community Over Competition
9:29 The EP "Kaleidoscope" and "Crazy One"
11:18 Co-Writing With Kent Blazy and the Bluebird
14:13 The Murder Ballad "The Only Ones Who Know"
16:21 What's Next: A Deluxe Edition and "Takes Me Back"
18:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity
19:51 Live Performance: "Takes Me Back"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Refusing the Rebrand: A Chat with Sarah Mootz https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/refusing_the_rebrand_a_chat_with_sarah_mootz Johnny Cash's old producer cut nine songs with her at sixteen, then vanished. She kept going. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Sarah Mootz was sixteen when Johnny C... Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:00:00 +0000 2263 Jason English false full 40 Johnny Cash's old producer cut nine songs with her at sixteen, then vanished. She kept going.

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Sarah Mootz was sixteen when Johnny Cash's former producer recorded a nine-song album with her and then disappeared without a word. On this episode she tells Jason English what twelve years in the business taught her about vouching for yourself, from converting rooms of people eating pizza to a brutal American Idol audition that pushed her to be someone she's not. She splits her time between the songwriter soul of Athens and the business mindset of Nashville and LA, building everything by hand. Her album Human Condition is the most honest work she's made, written, as she puts it, to tell herself the things she isn't saying yet. What does it cost to keep believing in yourself when no one's handing you permission?

๐ŸŽต Sarah Mootz's forthcoming album: Human Condition

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
2:00 Vouching for Yourself
3:21 Johnny Cash's Producer and the Ghosting
4:30 Finding Athens and Studying Music Business
6:21 Confidence and Converting the Pizza Crowd
9:51 Making the Ask
12:52 "Say You Love Me"
14:21 The American Idol Story
19:56 "The Dog"
21:21 The Album: Human Condition
23:41 Doing It Myself
27:35 60 Seconds of Curiosity
29:43 Live Performance: "Say You Love Me"
33:06 Live Performance: "The Secret"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Table & A Song: A Chat with Greg Loftus https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_table_a_song_a_chat_with_greg_loftus A Cape Cod carpenter who writes his best songs before 8 a.m., one line at a time. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Greg Loftus sat down with Jason on a Saturday mor... Sat, 21 Sep 2024 12:00:00 +0000 2048 Jason English false full 51 A Cape Cod carpenter who writes his best songs before 8 a.m., one line at a time.

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Greg Loftus sat down with Jason on a Saturday morning at his first AmericanaFest, a week out from releasing No Kings in the Wild. He splits his life between a Cape Cod wood shop, where he builds tables and bars under the name Narrowland Woodworks, and the guitar he picks up every morning from 7 to 7:45 to chip away at new songs. He talks about trading Austin for the Northeast, the divorce and early-COVID stretch that filled a record, and why he has never been in a hurry to quit the day job. What does taking the leap even look like when the stable thing and the calling both feel like home?

๐ŸŽต Greg Loftus's latest: No Kings in the Wild (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
0:43 First AmericanaFest, Fresh Album
1:00 The Dream Festival Lineup
2:51 Scoping the Scene and Bloodshot at 30
4:02 A Music Life on Cape Cod
4:29 From the Cape to Austin and Back
6:52 Narrowland Woodworks and the Day Job
9:17 Songwriting as Therapy, Woodworking as Meditation
12:21 Divorce, COVID, and the Songs That Followed
14:55 What "No Kings in the Wild" Means
17:34 Castaways and Wash Ashores
20:47 The Steve Earle Camp and Meeting Anders Osborne
23:20 Show Up and Do the Work
25:11 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> An Alt-Pop Upbeat Sad Boy: A Chat with Elis Cole https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/an_alt-pop_upbeat_sad_boy_a_chat_with_elis_cole Ten years producing for other people. Now he is learning to be the artist. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Elis Cole grew up just outside Nashville, grandson of Do... Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0000 1234 Jason English false full 37 Ten years producing for other people. Now he is learning to be the artist.

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Elis Cole grew up just outside Nashville, grandson of Don Winters, a yodeler who once held a world record for holding a note. His own path ran through a decade of production long before it ever reached a microphone. At a songwriter retreat, he sits down with Jason English to talk about stepping out from behind the boards and into the role of artist, and about the sound he calls upbeat sad boy: driving pop built on the melancholy of growing up. His 2023 album Wrong Person, Right Time set that identity, and a new teaser called "2003" hints at where he is headed. What happens to the music when the sadness starts to feel less like a wound and more like home?

๐ŸŽต Elis Cole's latest: Wrong Person, Right Time (2023)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome From the Songwriter Retreat
0:39 Inside the Ari Retreat
2:51 A Moment That Sticks: Sitting on the Artist's Side
3:56 Growing Up Just Outside Nashville
6:23 A Grandfather and a Yodeling Record
7:36 Defining "Upbeat Sad Boy"
8:20 Why the Lyrics Lean Sad
9:02 Where the Sound Is Headed
10:12 Influences and Hyper-Pop
11:39 Is Nashville the Right Place
13:44 The Underground Scene
14:44 The Melancholy Behind the Music
16:41 Wrong Person, Right Time
17:32 60 Seconds of Curiosity
19:14 Live Performance: "2003"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Tawnted Audio https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/tawnted_audio His angsty breakup songs aren't about a person. They're about leaving the religion he grew up in. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Tawnted spent a year sidelined by... Thu, 12 Sep 2024 12:00:00 +0000 1280 Jason English false full 33 His angsty breakup songs aren't about a person. They're about leaving the religion he grew up in.

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Tawnted spent a year sidelined by injury, lost a relationship, and moved to a new city, and he turned every bit of it into songs. On this episode he tells Jason English about growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness, working as a missionary at nineteen, and walking away at twenty into a kind of shunning. He explains why so many of his tracks sound like breakups but are really about leaving a faith, and how his Seven Deadly Sins project, including the single "You're So Fake," channels anger into something he can release rather than become. Raised to be certain about everything, he's now most at home being unsure. What happens when you're finally allowed to ask the questions you were never permitted to?

๐ŸŽต Tawnted's latest: the single "You're So Fake" (2024), from his Seven Deadly Sins project

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:43 A Year of Setbacks: Injury and a Breakup
3:07 Anger as Fuel for Songwriting
3:56 "Unwell" and the Jenga Video
5:41 Raised a Gay Jehovah's Witness
7:53 Leaving the Religion at Twenty
10:25 Writing From the Dark, Not the Happy
11:13 Going Independent and the Seven Deadly Sins
15:42 60 Seconds of Curiosity
19:00 Live Performance: "Start a War"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> The Face of Fantasy Rock: A Chat with Kaia Jette https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/the_face_of_fantasy_rock_a_chat_with_kaia_jette She went viral with one song, then chose to build a career with no backup plan. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Kaia Jette dropped a single called "Medusa," watche... Fri, 06 Sep 2024 12:00:00 +0000 853 Jason English false full 32 She went viral with one song, then chose to build a career with no backup plan.

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Kaia Jette dropped a single called "Medusa," watched it cross twelve million streams, and used the momentum to chase a sound she calls Fantasy Rock. Recorded at a Nashville songwriter retreat, this conversation traces her path from Utah's underground venues through LA to Music City, and gets into why she runs the whole operation, marketing included, on her own. She is blunt about the cost of going all in: she refuses to keep a backup plan, because a backup plan is where you end up. Her EP Apollo turns Greek myth into something cinematic and loud. What does it take to bet everything on the one thing you can't not do?

๐ŸŽต Kaia Jette's latest: Apollo (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Meeting Kaia at the Ari Retreat
1:04 How She Landed at the Songwriter Retreat
2:11 What "Fantasy Rock" Actually Means
2:54 Greek Mythology and the Rise of "Medusa"
3:05 Growing Up in Utah's Underground Scene
4:11 Utah to LA to Nashville
7:13 Dating and Settling Into Nashville
8:35 Where She Stands as an Artist Today
8:42 Going Fully Independent and Learning Marketing
10:56 The "No Backup Plan" Philosophy
11:54 60 Seconds of Curiosity
12:19 Where Her Songs Come From
12:53 What's Next

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Speaking of Going Viral: A Chat with Philip Bowen https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/speaking_of_going_viral_a_chat_with_philip_bowen He has a million followers. The break that mattered most was a call he nearly ignored. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Philip Bowen sat down at Eddie's Attic in At... Thu, 01 Aug 2024 12:00:00 +0000 2840 Jason English false full 36 He has a million followers. The break that mattered most was a call he nearly ignored.

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Philip Bowen sat down at Eddie's Attic in Atlanta, between tour stops and just off a run of late-night recording sessions back home in West Virginia. He talks about building an audience of more than a million through years of nightly livestreams, and why the invitations that meant the most were the Bluebird Cafe and NPR's Mountain Stage. His debut album Old Kanawha is named for the river near his childhood home, holding both the beauty of Appalachia and the weight of the opioid crisis. He is candid about burnout, about a December when he nearly walked away, and about the phone call that came two days after Christmas. What does success look like once you already have the thing everyone else is chasing?

๐ŸŽต Philip Bowen's latest: Old Kanawha (2023)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Welcome
1:02 Mid-Tour and What Success Looks Like
3:50 Making Space to Write on the Road
5:10 Finding Balance with Family
6:42 Beyond the Follower Count
9:00 The Bluebird and Mountain Stage
12:16 Leaving the Corporate Job
13:00 The Daily Create and the Lockdown Livestreams
16:42 60 Seconds of Curiosity
21:40 Almost Quitting and the Call That Changed Everything
25:00 Old Kanawha and the Stories of Home
28:14 Getting the Americana Fest Spotlight
29:00 The Misconceptions About Appalachia
33:00 "A Murder" and "Vampire in Appalachia"
40:00 The Story Behind "Sweet Honey"
44:48 Live Performance: "Sweet Honey"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Still Chasing His Dream: A Chat with Axel Flรณvent https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/still_chasing_his_dream_a_chat_with_axel_flovent He's an introvert who built an extrovert to do the job. The album is his argument with himself. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Axel Flรณvent still lives in Husavik... Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:00:00 +0000 3053 Jason English false full 34 He's an introvert who built an extrovert to do the job. The album is his argument with himself.

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Axel Flรณvent still lives in Husavik, the small fishing town on Iceland's north coast where he grew up writing songs in the quiet. A few weeks after releasing his second album Away From This Dream, he sat down with Jason English to talk about the tension the title names: the more he wants to be an artist, the more he has to be a businessman to fund it. He's candid about being an introvert who built a more outgoing version of himself for the work, about writing dozens of songs to find the ten that made the record, and about how "Forest Fires" took off almost by accident. He traces his whole sound back to growing up with a lot of empty space and learning to get inspired by nothing. What does it cost to keep the thing you love from turning into the thing you dread?

๐ŸŽต Axel Flovent's latest: Away From This Dream (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:39 Studio Versus Stage
3:22 The Introvert Behind the Persona
5:25 "Forest Fires" and Millions of Streams
9:09 "Away From This Dream": Artist Versus Businessman
15:31 From Thirty Demos to Ten Songs
19:05 Why He Never Recycles a Song
20:50 "Wash It Away": Overthinking and Doubt
24:55 "Don't Wait for Summer"
27:22 "Honesty": Choosing Solitude Over Settling
36:00 Iceland and the Sound of Nothing
41:18 60 Seconds of Curiosity
43:00 What's Next: Husavik and Festivals

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Cereus Bright: Spiritual Journey Takes Artist to Mexico https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_cereus_bright_spiritual_journey_takes_artist_to_mexico He left Knoxville for a Mexico City commune, chasing a different kind of faith Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Tyler Anthony, who records as Cereus Bright, moved from Knoxville... Mon, 22 Jul 2024 13:00:00 +0000 4197 Jason English true full 27 He left Knoxville for a Mexico City commune, chasing a different kind of faith

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Tyler Anthony, who records as Cereus Bright, moved from Knoxville to Mexico City and a creative community called Casa de Copas. He talks about losing patience with rigid binaries, his struggle with faith, and the new album "Anything," including songs like "Boys" and "Don't You Fake It Too." He closes unplugged. What do you find when you stop needing the world to be either/or?

๐ŸŽต Cereus Bright's latest: Anything (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 An Existential Crisis
1:43 Tyler Anthony's Journey
2:39 Moving to Mexico City
3:27 Casa de Copas
5:57 Challenges and Hopes for Artists
20:25 The New Album, Anything
29:54 Themes in the Album
32:20 Influences and Inspirations
35:59 The Stories Behind the Lyrics
44:13 60 Seconds of Curiosity
59:56 Upcoming Plans

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Rachael Sage: An Artist Above All Else https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_rachael_sage_an_artist_above_all_else A label founder and lifelong artist on taking her own album apart and building it again. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Rachael Sage has built a whole life in mus... Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:00:00 +0000 3827 Jason English false full 26 A label founder and lifelong artist on taking her own album apart and building it again.

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Rachael Sage has built a whole life in music, as an artist and the founder of her own label. She talks about "Another Side," a reimagined version of her 2023 album "The Other Side," what she's learning from co-writing, and the emotional connection she's after on stage. She performs two songs. What do you hear in your own work when you take it apart and build it again?

๐ŸŽต Rachael Sage's latest: Another Side (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
3:33 Recent Activities and Collaborations
5:15 The Album "The Other Side"
10:58 Connection with the UK Scene
20:07 A Multifaceted Career
27:06 Challenges and Inspirations
36:35 Navigating the Industry
38:07 Track-by-Track Insights
52:50 Upcoming Projects
55:51 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Jack O'Neill: He's a Songwriter, After All https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_jack_o_neill_he_s_a_songwriter_after_all The Jackopierce frontman on sobriety, a 35-year partnership, and finally calling himself a songwriter Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jack O'Neill of Jackopierce talks about ge... Mon, 08 Jul 2024 13:00:00 +0000 5795 Jason English false full 25 The Jackopierce frontman on sobriety, a 35-year partnership, and finally calling himself a songwriter

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Jack O'Neill of Jackopierce talks about getting sober, his military upbringing, and the 35-year friendship with Cary Pierce that started at SMU. He gets into quitting his day job to fully claim being a songwriter, the stories behind new singles like "Airport Bars and Air Guitars" and "Weight of the World," and recording with T Bone Burnett. He closes acoustic. What does it take to finally call yourself the thing you have always been?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 A Life-Changing Decision
1:48 The Story of Jack O'Neill
2:33 Jackopierce, the Duo
3:47 Jack's Solo Journey
8:16 The Music Industry Today
11:09 Creating New Music
15:49 The Impact of Streaming
24:17 The Art of Songwriting
40:47 A Military Family's Influence
51:55 "Weight of the World"
1:03:02 60 Seconds of Curiosity
1:25:31 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Mae Krell: Debut Album Represents Journey Through Struggles & Sobriety https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_mae_krell_debut_album_represents_journey_through_struggles_sobriety An indie songwriter on sobriety, self-forgiveness, and a debut called I Might Be Grown Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Mae Krell came up in New York's indie scene and writes st... Mon, 01 Jul 2024 14:00:00 +0000 3868 Jason English false full 24 An indie songwriter on sobriety, self-forgiveness, and a debut called I Might Be Grown

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Mae Krell came up in New York's indie scene and writes straight from her own struggles with mental health and sobriety. She talks about her debut album "I Might Be Grown," what the title means, and tracks like "Apollo's Song" and "Grown." She's thoughtful about building real connection with fans in a noisy industry. She closes with two songs. What does it take to forgive the version of yourself you're growing out of?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Self-Forgiveness
1:45 Discovering Mae Krell
3:00 Her Musical Journey
5:21 Touring and the Album
10:02 The Independent Hustle
22:52 New York vs. Nashville
32:25 The Album: I Might Be Grown
42:58 Sobriety and Reflection
47:13 Music as a Lifeline
52:45 60 Seconds of Curiosity
54:50 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Cat Ridgeway https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_cat_ridgeway An Orlando songwriter making the case for joy when everyone else writes sad songs Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Cat Ridgeway, out of Orlando, makes a case for joy when everyo... Wed, 12 Jun 2024 13:00:00 +0000 4704 Jason English false full 70 An Orlando songwriter making the case for joy when everyone else writes sad songs

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Cat Ridgeway, out of Orlando, makes a case for joy when everyone else is writing sad songs. She tells stories from a career full of odd coincidences, including a connection to the Grateful Dead's former publicist, her Colorado adventures, an upcoming record, and the coffee-roasting habit that's become its own thing. It's a long, funny, generous conversation. What happens when an artist decides joy is worth writing about?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Coincidences
4:17 Meet Cat Ridgeway
6:16 Live Shows and Fans
7:26 Festival Dream Lineup
13:21 Colorado Adventures
19:24 Unexpected Connections
27:16 Coffee Roasting
40:16 The Grateful Dead Connection
45:10 The Music Industry
51:50 The New Record
1:09:11 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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]]> A Chat with Cousin Curtiss & Harrison B https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_cousin_curtiss_harrison_b Two teachers who quit to tour full-time, on the road and the songs it makes. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Cousin Curtiss and Harrison B both left steady jobs to... Sat, 01 Jun 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2854 Jason English false full 22 Two teachers who quit to tour full-time, on the road and the songs it makes.

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Cousin Curtiss and Harrison B both left steady jobs to play music full-time, and now they tour the country as a high-energy Americana duo. They talk about building a sound as a pair, writing on the road, the song "Little Change," and what it took to leave the classroom behind. They close with "Little Change" and a cover of "Midnight Rider." What does it cost to trade a steady paycheck for the thing you love?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 From Teaching to Music
1:32 Meet Cousin Curtiss & Harrison B
3:23 Touring Life
5:17 The Art of Being a Duo
7:28 Rockin' Americana
11:34 Writing on the Road
17:17 Two Paths, One Journey
21:42 Home Life and Road Life
31:22 The Story of "Little Change"
33:30 60 Seconds of Curiosity
36:04 Live Performance: "Little Change" + "Midnight Rider"

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> In the Studio with Davin McCoy (With Special Guest Dan Hannon) https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/in_the_studio_with_davin_mccoy_with_special_guest_dan_hannon Inside a Muscle Shoals studio for Davin McCoy's first album in a decade Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) This one goes inside the studio at Ivy Manor in Muscle Shoals, where Dav... Mon, 27 May 2024 14:00:00 +0000 3866 Jason English true full 20 Inside a Muscle Shoals studio for Davin McCoy's first album in a decade

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This one goes inside the studio at Ivy Manor in Muscle Shoals, where Davin McCoy is cutting his first album in a decade with producer Dan Hannon. Hannon talks about his career, his fight with throat cancer, and how he draws a vision out of an artist. Davin walks through the nerves and the layers of tracking a record. It's a look at how the work actually gets made, geese, ping pong, and all. What does it take to finally finish the record you've put off for ten years?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Podcast Intro
2:47 Meet Producer Dan Hannon
4:39 Hannon's Journey and the Studio
5:14 Making Davin McCoy's Album
35:06 Song Selection
36:37 Anticipation for the Album
39:54 The Mystique of Muscle Shoals
48:31 Final Thoughts
53:18 Ping Pong and Camaraderie

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with James Mastro https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_james_mastro He backed Patti Smith and Robert Plant for decades before making a record of his own Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) James Mastro spent a long career playing alongside Robert P... Thu, 09 May 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2083 Jason English false full 21 He backed Patti Smith and Robert Plant for decades before making a record of his own

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James Mastro spent a long career playing alongside Robert Plant, Patti Smith, and Ian Hunter, and with "Dawn of a New Error" he finally made a record of his own. He talks about why he waited, what he picked up in all those rooms, and the risk of stepping out front. Religion, COVID, and not taking yourself too seriously all come up. What pulls a lifelong sideman to the center of the stage?

๐ŸŽต James Mastro's latest: Dawn of a New Error (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Embracing Mistakes and New Beginnings
1:45 From Hoboken to Athens
2:28 The Man Behind the Music
3:29 On Tour
10:36 Religion, Optimism, Connection
17:23 Playing with the Greats
26:09 The Journey of a Solo Album
28:06 60 Seconds of Curiosity
34:11 Closing Thoughts

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with EyeAm & Joel Hoffman https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_eyeam_joel_hoffman A young hip-hop artist and a 60-something surgeon, making R&B together. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) EyeAM is a young hip-hop and R&B artist. Joel Hoffman is a ... Sun, 05 May 2024 13:15:00 +0000 2073 Jason English true full 19 A young hip-hop artist and a 60-something surgeon, making R&B together.

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EyeAM is a young hip-hop and R&B artist. Joel Hoffman is a surgeon in his sixties who loves to write hooks. Together they make something they call alternative R&B, and the partnership works better than it has any right to. They talk about how they met, the Ari Collective label they're building, and what music does across a 40-year age gap. They close with two songs. What makes an unlikely collaboration click?

๐ŸŽต Building: the Ari Collective label

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Creative Process
1:36 An Unlikely Duo
3:18 Making Music in Alpharetta
4:03 The Origin Story
4:51 Crafting a Sound
6:37 Music Across Generations
12:21 Their Musical Backgrounds
17:29 The Ari Collective
23:51 Music and Mentorship
26:29 Goals and Upcoming Projects
28:31 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> Gary Nichols: A Star is Reborn https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/gary_nichols_a_star_is_reborn A SteelDrivers Grammy, then addiction nearly took everything, then the way back Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Gary Nichols won a Grammy with the SteelDrivers, the band he joi... Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:00:00 +0000 4292 Jason English true full 18 A SteelDrivers Grammy, then addiction nearly took everything, then the way back

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Gary Nichols won a Grammy with the SteelDrivers, the band he joined after Chris Stapleton left, and then addiction nearly ended everything. He's open about hitting bottom more than once, the moment in jail that turned him toward recovery, and how songwriting kept him moving through it and after. He talks about Muscle Shoals, fatherhood, and what redemption actually feels like day to day. What does it take to decide to live?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Depths of Addiction
2:44 From Grammy Glory to Survival
6:16 Muscle Shoals
15:14 The Fall and the Turn
32:36 A Life-Changing Moment in Jail
34:52 A Second Chance
36:28 Redemption Through Music
47:17 Love and Life After Recovery
1:02:00 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Mike Kinnebrew Part 2 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_mike_kinnebrew_part_2 Part two: how one piece of odd feedback led him to write his saddest song. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Part two with Mike Kinnebrew gets into sentiment, the th... Mon, 15 Apr 2024 17:15:00 +0000 1849 Jason English false full Part two: how one piece of odd feedback led him to write his saddest song.

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Part two with Mike Kinnebrew gets into sentiment, the thing a lot of writers run from. He talks about how a strange bit of feedback pushed him to write his saddest song, why reflection matters in a fast-scrolling world, and the narrative depth of his upcoming album. There's a lakeside performance with an uninvited choir of geese. What does a songwriter gain by leaning into sentiment instead of avoiding it?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Positivity in Songwriting
1:20 Sentiment and Songwriting
2:19 Country Music and Reflection
3:27 Emotion, Authenticity, Connection
8:51 The Creative Process
17:05 Covering Classics and Permissions
19:32 60 Seconds of Curiosity
21:33 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Mike Kinnebrew Part 1 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_mike_kinnebrew_part_1 A songwriter on quitting drinking, and the song he wrote two months later Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Mike Kinnebrew uses songwriting to face the things he'd rather not. In... Tue, 09 Apr 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2898 Jason English false full A songwriter on quitting drinking, and the song he wrote two months later

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Mike Kinnebrew uses songwriting to face the things he'd rather not. In part one he talks about deciding to quit drinking and what sobriety has meant for his family, his creativity, and his daily life. He traces a childhood spent moving for his father's ministry, the role of faith, and the Nashville community he found. He closes with "What's Left of Me," a single written two months after he quit. What changes in the work when you stop numbing the hard parts?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Vulnerability in Music
1:40 Meet Mike Kinnebrew
2:17 Songwriting as a Way Through
5:43 Faith and Family
11:53 From Church Camp to Music
17:33 Balancing Family, Faith, Career
22:56 Roots to Nashville
30:39 Choosing Sobriety
39:26 Songwriting Through Struggle
44:05 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Jacob Furr - Part 2 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_jacob_furr_-_part_2 Part two: a tribute to Rich Mullins and the faith we both had to question Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Part two with Jacob Furr turns into a tribute to Rich Mullins, the Chr... Fri, 05 Apr 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2295 Jason English false full Part two: a tribute to Rich Mullins and the faith we both had to question

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Part two with Jacob Furr turns into a tribute to Rich Mullins, the Christian songwriter whose depth and honesty cut against the genre's polish. Jacob and I trade stories about Mullins' influence, our own conservative-Christian upbringings, and what it means to keep questioning a faith you were handed. He also previews a project rooted in his family's history on an Arkansas poor farm. What stays with you from the music that shaped your faith, even after the faith changes?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Musical Influences
1:42 Jacob's Spiritual Turn
2:06 A Tribute to Rich Mullins
5:53 A Conservative Christian Camp
7:29 Family History in Song
11:12 The Art of Storytelling
17:31 Rich Mullins' Legacy
23:01 Deconstructing a Faith
26:40 A Beacon for the Questioning
32:24 Future Projects
33:24 Closing Thoughts

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Jacob Furr - Part 1 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_jacob_furr_-_part_1 He lost his wife to brain cancer in his twenties, then kept writing through it Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Jacob Furr, a singer-songwriter out of Fort Worth, lost his wife ... Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:00:00 +0000 1956 Jason English false full He lost his wife to brain cancer in his twenties, then kept writing through it

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Jacob Furr, a singer-songwriter out of Fort Worth, lost his wife to brain cancer in his twenties, and he's spent years writing through it. In part one he talks about his album "Turning," a record about hope after grief, the Fort Worth scene he's fighting to put on the map, and the Townes Van Zandt lineage he writes within. He's honest about the hustle of staying independent. How does grief change shape when you keep writing through it?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Grief and Life's Freshness
1:45 Meet Jacob Furr
2:36 The Fort Worth Music Scene
4:59 The Legacy of Townes Van Zandt
8:15 The Independent Artist's Life
12:53 Turning: Grief, Growth, New Beginnings
17:44 Songwriting as Therapy
23:47 Finding Love After Loss
27:15 Teaching and the Hustle
32:05 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Eliot Bronson Part 2 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_eliot_bronson_part_2 Part two: writing songs that hold sweetness and bluntness in the same breath Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Part two with Eliot Bronson digs into how he keeps a song honest wi... Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:00:00 +0000 1797 Jason English true full Part two: writing songs that hold sweetness and bluntness in the same breath

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Part two with Eliot Bronson digs into how he keeps a song honest without losing the melody. He talks through tracks from "Talking to Myself" like "Are You Still Mean?" and "From Rabun Gap," the tension between chasing success and protecting the work, and why naming contradictory feelings is its own kind of relief. He closes with a performance. How do you write something blunt and tender at the same time?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Emotional Spectrum in Music
2:16 The Ted Lasso Connection
4:21 Life's Emotional Extremes
5:30 Balancing Opposites in a Song
6:37 Personal Growth and Expression
14:55 Success, Struggle, Authenticity
21:55 Influences and What's Next
25:25 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Eliot Bronson Part 1 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_eliot_bronson_part_1 A songwriter who says his own songs teach him who he is Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Eliot Bronson writes songs that he says end up teaching him about himself. In part one, ... Thu, 21 Mar 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2517 Jason English false full A songwriter who says his own songs teach him who he is

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Eliot Bronson writes songs that he says end up teaching him about himself. In part one, he talks about his religious upbringing and how it shows up in his music, the surprising upside of livestreaming during the pandemic, and the making of his album "Talking to Myself." He gets into the power of simple lyrics and ends on the last track, "What I've Done With My Life," with an acoustic performance. What can a song show you about yourself that you couldn't see on your own?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:39 Eliot Bronson, Master of Covers
3:54 Songwriting as a Mirror
4:33 The Album, Talking to Myself
6:57 A Religious Upbringing
8:24 The Songwriting Process
14:05 Performing and Connecting
15:48 60 Seconds of Curiosity
20:55 The Beauty of Simplicity
25:26 Music in the Pandemic
27:08 Covering Favorite Artists
35:26 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with We Are All Fossils Part Two https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_we_are_all_fossils_part_two Part two: grief, a song called "The West," and a global following built by accident Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) In part two with We Are All Fossils, Deist goes deeper into ... Tue, 19 Mar 2024 13:00:00 +0000 1595 Jason English false full Part two: grief, a song called "The West," and a global following built by accident

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In part two with We Are All Fossils, Deist goes deeper into the loss of his mother and how grief reshaped his writing. He talks about gaining a worldwide following organically, the pull of Sufjan Stevens, and where he wants to take the project next. He performs "The West." How does grief change what a songwriter is able to make?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:28 Continuing with Deist
2:13 The Story of "The West"
4:07 A Growing Listener Base
5:32 International Collaborations
8:33 The Music Industry
12:00 The Influence of Sufjan Stevens
17:40 Future Projects
23:17 Live Performance
26:07 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with We Are All Fossils Part 1 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_we_are_all_fossils_part_1 A South African musician who turns strangers' stories into songs, now in Britain Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) We Are All Fossils is the project of Deist, a South African mus... Thu, 14 Mar 2024 08:00:00 +0000 2099 Jason English false full A South African musician who turns strangers' stories into songs, now in Britain

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We Are All Fossils is the project of Deist, a South African musician now based in Britain. In part one, he talks about the Ubuntu idea that music is something we achieve together, his "Songs for Strangers" project that turns listeners' stories into original songs, and the artists who shaped him: Sufjan Stevens, Damien Rice, Gregory Alan Isakov. He closes with a performance of "Mountains." What happens when you let strangers hand you the material for your songs?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Competitive Nature of Music
1:43 Music as Shared Connection
2:15 We Are All Fossils
4:27 Meeting Deist
5:47 From South Africa to Britain
7:01 The Meaning Behind the Name
9:31 Influences: Sufjan, Damien Rice, Isakov
11:59 Songs for Strangers
24:49 New Releases
28:10 The Story Behind "Mountains"
31:43 Live Performance
34:35 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Cyrena Wages https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_cyrena_wages From beauty pageants to a soul record about vanity and the labels put on women Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Cyrena Wages took the long way from beauty pageants to a solo car... Fri, 08 Mar 2024 14:00:00 +0000 2755 Jason English true full 11 From beauty pageants to a soul record about vanity and the labels put on women

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Cyrena Wages took the long way from beauty pageants to a solo career rooted in Memphis. Before a tour kickoff at Eddie's Attic, she talks about her album "The Vanity Project," the stereotypes she's fought as a woman in music, and how the rivers and culture of her hometown run through her sound. Curiosity, she says, is part of how she stays free. She closes with "Carried Away" and "Robin Hood." What does it take to shed the labels other people hand you?

๐ŸŽต Cyrena Wages' latest: The Vanity Project (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Childhood Memories
1:44 Introducing Cyrena Wages
2:22 Her Love for Memphis
3:40 The Start of the Tour
4:02 The Solo Career Journey
9:21 The Vanity Project
19:01 Family Background
23:33 60 Seconds of Curiosity
39:31 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> In the Studio with Davin McCoy: Part 1 https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/in_the_studio_with_davin_mccoy_part_1 An Atlanta songwriter on making music raw enough to make you uncomfortable Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Davin McCoy doesn't smooth the edges off his songs. In part one of th... Tue, 05 Mar 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2329 Jason English true full 12 An Atlanta songwriter on making music raw enough to make you uncomfortable

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Davin McCoy doesn't smooth the edges off his songs. In part one of this In the Studio conversation, he talks about the emotional intensity in his music, the punk-rock energy underneath it, and a decade's backlog of songs he's pulling together for a new album. It's a deeply personal record, even with collaborators in the room. He closes with a fireside performance of "Rings" from a December 2023 house show. What makes a songwriter want to make you a little uncomfortable?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:20 Discovering Davin McCoy
2:41 The Upcoming Album
4:08 The Recording Process
5:01 Past Experience in the Industry
6:56 Revisiting Old Songs
9:15 Emotional Connection Through Music
17:21 The Songwriting Backlog
20:07 The Themes of the Album
25:55 A Live Recording
31:55 Looking Toward Muscle Shoals
38:12 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Grace Asbury https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_grace_asbury An Atlanta songwriter on losing her brother and the music she's making after Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Grace Asbury, an Atlanta native now in Nashville, writes from what ... Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2895 Jason English false full 10 An Atlanta songwriter on losing her brother and the music she's making after

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Grace Asbury, an Atlanta native now in Nashville, writes from what she's lived. She talks about losing her brother Sam to suicide and how that loss shaped her as a person and a songwriter, alongside the practical grind of co-writing and finding her sound in Nashville. She's in a reset, with a run of singles on the way. How does someone turn grief that never fully leaves into something worth releasing?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Power of Music
1:39 Grace Asbury, a Rising Voice
3:32 The Move to Nashville
6:40 Making It in Nashville
8:07 Co-Writing and Networking
14:35 A Musical Reset
18:27 Personal Experience and Storytelling
20:09 Losing Sam
27:28 Music and Grief
31:47 Gratitude and Healing
38:01 Upcoming Releases
38:54 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Vanessa Peters https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_vanessa_peters She's not sure music can pay the bills, and she's freer in it than ever Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Vanessa Peters released "Flying on Instruments" in 2024, and she's clear... Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2375 Jason English false full 9 She's not sure music can pay the bills, and she's freer in it than ever

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Vanessa Peters released "Flying on Instruments" in 2024, and she's clear-eyed about the business around it: AI bots, trademark headaches, and the long odds of a sustainable living. What she's found instead is freedom in making the music carefully and on her own terms. She closes the episode with two live performances. What does freedom look like once you stop expecting music to pay the bills?

๐ŸŽต Vanessa Peters' latest: Flying on Instruments (2024)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
2:07 The Paradox of Today's Musician
2:48 The Songwriter's Journey
6:10 The Songwriting Process
8:32 The Personal Side of Songwriting
21:04 The Business of Music
26:44 Career and Future Goals
29:50 The Meaning of Music

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Grace Pettis https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_grace_pettis She wrote a song to apologize to her best friend, and it brought him back. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Grace Pettis wrote a song called "Landon" as an apology ... Thu, 15 Feb 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2060 Jason English false full 8 She wrote a song to apologize to her best friend, and it brought him back.

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Grace Pettis wrote a song called "Landon" as an apology to her best friend, who came out after high school, and it helped rebuild the friendship. She talks about that song, about wanting more women's voices and stories in music, and about a new record shaped by loss and life after divorce. Ted Lasso comes up too, for its decency and its women. Can a song actually repair something between two people?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:07 Songwriting as Therapy
1:31 Meeting Grace Pettis
2:15 The Ted Lasso Connection
5:56 The Church and Acceptance
9:08 The Story Behind "Landon"
12:11 Apology and Reconnection
22:02 Women's Voices in Music
26:32 The Upcoming Album
29:40 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Alice Peacock https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_alice_peacock A Columbia deal, then releasing on her own, then stepping back for family Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Alice Peacock has seen the music business from both sides, signed to C... Thu, 08 Feb 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2478 Jason English false full 7 A Columbia deal, then releasing on her own, then stepping back for family

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Alice Peacock has seen the music business from both sides, signed to Columbia and then releasing her album "Minnesota" independently. She talks about her love of Prince, the Midwestern roots in her songwriting, and the years she stepped back to raise her family. Now she's ready to record and perform again. What does it look like to come back to music on your own terms after stepping away?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction and Love for Prince
1:42 Alice's Musical Journey
3:04 Festivals
6:21 Influences and Style
8:17 The Art of Songwriting
14:45 The Early Career
17:48 From Label to Independent
19:59 The Changing Industry
24:59 Plans for New Albums
31:42 Roots and Heritage

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Kelly Willis https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_kelly_willis A country veteran on saying yes more at 55, and enjoying the work more than she ever has. Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ Subscribe to Chords of Curiosity ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Kelly Willis has been in country music a ... Mon, 05 Feb 2024 13:00:00 +0000 2172 Jason English false full 6 A country veteran on saying yes more at 55, and enjoying the work more than she ever has.

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Kelly Willis has been in country music a long time, and she says she's enjoying it now more than ever. She talks about saying yes to more of what comes her way, the move from rockabilly to country, and the social anxiety she's worked through along the way. She also gets into her new trio, the Wonder Women of Country, and a forthcoming EP. What changes when you stop bracing against your career and start having fun with it?

๐ŸŽต Latest project: Wonder Women of Country (trio)

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 The Power of Saying Yes
1:44 Meeting Kelly Willis
2:31 Austin and the 30A Festival
5:11 Songwriting and Co-Writing
9:25 Affirmation and Taylor Swift
12:59 The Wonder Women of Country
17:33 Working Through Social Anxiety
20:37 The Pressures of the Spotlight
21:30 60 Seconds of Curiosity
27:04 Future Projects
29:02 The Changing Industry
32:05 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Wyatt Edmondson https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_wyatt_edmondson A blind singer-songwriter on building a business and a brand the music industry didn't make room for Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Wyatt Edmondson has built an independent ca... Wed, 31 Jan 2024 14:00:00 +0000 2538 Jason English false full 5 A blind singer-songwriter on building a business and a brand the music industry didn't make room for

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Wyatt Edmondson has built an independent career on his own terms, and he is candid about both halves of it. The first half is business: the revenue streams and marketing that keep an independent musician afloat. The second is the art, and how his visual impairment has shaped the way he connects with a room. Faith runs through both. How do you build a living in music when the usual paths weren't designed with you in mind?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:53 The Business of Independent Music
2:13 Vision and a Music Career
2:35 Live Performance and Conversation
5:12 Revenue Streams and Marketing
23:09 Music and Personal Growth
29:46 The Role of Faith
31:46 Future Goals
33:31 Live Performance

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A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Amanda Donald https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_amanda_donald She wrote her album's title track from a true 1800s story, and now she's deep in her own family tree Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Amanda Donald builds songs out of other peo... Mon, 29 Jan 2024 13:00:00 +0000 1923 Jason English false full 4 She wrote her album's title track from a true 1800s story, and now she's deep in her own family tree

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Amanda Donald builds songs out of other people's lives and her own. She talks about writing "100 Roots," the title track of her first album, from a true story set in the 1800s, and where her ear for narrative comes from. The conversation runs from songwriting to a fast game of red-flag-or-deal-breaker before she gets into her current rabbit hole: tracing her family tree on Ancestry. What pulls a songwriter toward other people's stories in the first place?

๐ŸŽต Amanda Donald's latest: 100 Roots

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Attraction Theories
1:14 Meeting Amanda Donald
2:25 Festivals and the Road
3:30 The Debut Album, 100 Roots
5:55 The True Story Behind "100 Roots"
8:11 "When I Leave Alabama" and "Red Flags"
11:53 Red Flag or Deal Breaker?
17:05 Into Music and Songwriting
22:21 60 Seconds of Curiosity
23:34 Current Obsession: Ancestry
24:28 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

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]]> A Chat with Clare Cunningham https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_clare_cunningham An Irish songwriter on the therapy that rebuilt her voice, and the silence she grew up in Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Clare Cunningham grew up feeling silenced, and cogniti... Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:00:00 +0000 2083 Jason English false full 3 An Irish songwriter on the therapy that rebuilt her voice, and the silence she grew up in

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Clare Cunningham grew up feeling silenced, and cognitive behavioral therapy is part of how she found her way back to her voice. The Irish singer-songwriter talks about building an independent career, writing through her mental health, and the cultural roots that run under her music. She closes the episode with her anthem "I Swear," a song built to hold someone else up. What does it take to turn the hardest parts of your story into the thing that helps other people?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:11 Personal Struggles
1:52 The Independent Artist Path
3:04 The 30A Songwriters Festival
3:54 Highlights of 2023
5:23 Mission and Transformation
7:51 Growing Up Silenced
8:54 Finding Therapy
15:47 The Thunder Mother Moment
22:03 Songwriting and Irish Roots
28:40 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Matthew Killough https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_matthew_killough A Nashville songwriter on the stage fright he writes around, and the South that pulled his songs out Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Matt Killough moved from Denver back to the... Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:00:00 +0000 2876 Jason English false full 2 A Nashville songwriter on the stage fright he writes around, and the South that pulled his songs out

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Matt Killough moved from Denver back to the South, and the homecoming cracked his songwriting open. He traces the family ties across Florida, Georgia, and Alabama, the American roots and British folk that shaped his debut album, and the storytelling instinct at the center of his writing. He is also candid about the performance anxiety that sits oddly next to his love of making records. How do you build a music career around the part you love when the stage is the part you dread?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:36 Meeting Matt Killough
2:47 The 30A Songwriters Festival
5:56 Musical Influences
12:19 Making the First Album
18:11 The Stories Behind the Songs
26:26 Stage Fright and What's Next
34:02 Ted Lasso and Belief
37:04 Live Performance

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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]]> A Chat with Bradley Cole Smith https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/podcast/s/curious_goldfish_podcast/a_chat_with_bradley_cole_smith A 23-year partnership, a five-year silence, and why they still play to any size room Get the stories behind the episodes โ†’ curiousgoldfish.com ( https://www.curiousgoldfish.com/?modal=signup ) Bradley Cole Smith and Nelson Nolen have made music togethe... Sat, 06 Jan 2024 23:00:00 +0000 2330 Jason English false full 1 A 23-year partnership, a five-year silence, and why they still play to any size room

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Bradley Cole Smith and Nelson Nolen have made music together in Atlanta for 23 years. They talk about adapting to any room, from Smith's Olde Bar to songwriter festivals, why they are finally ready to release new music after a five-year hiatus, and how positivity and lived experience shape the songs. Ted Lasso keeps coming up as a metaphor for the whole thing. What keeps two musicians going long after audience size stops being the point?

โฑ๏ธ CHAPTERS
0:00 Love for Singing
1:49 New Year, New Musical Goals
2:54 The Craft of Songwriting
3:30 A 23-Year Band History
4:23 Memorable Road Stories
6:21 How the Partnership Writes
10:11 Georgia's Influence on the Sound
12:58 From Band to Solo and Back
14:06 Writing from Positivity
19:12 The Pandemic's Toll
20:27 Venues and Festivals
26:50 60 Seconds of Curiosity

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ABOUT CURIOUS GOLDFISH
A music podcast about more than music. Inspired by Ted Lasso. I talk with singer-songwriters and bands in Americana, folk, roots, and country about the lives behind the songs: resilience, faith, marriage, the business of music, and what keeps an artist going. Every episode ends with the same question about curiosity, and no two answers are alike.

New episodes every other week.

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